It depends on what type of flying you want to do. The IR and night ratings are much easier to get and keep in the US. In Ireland, very few airports are open at night so there's no real use for a night rating. For the Instrument Rating, you need to sit most of the commercial licence exams which takes a huge amount of effort and expense. And again, there are not many airports in the country that are equipped with instrument approaches. It's also a skill that you need to keep practising to stay safe.Finally, while I have no interest in pursuing a commercial career I am considering further training. In the US for example I get the impression it is relatively common to have a PPL then do a night and instrument rating. I get the feeling that is not as common here but would it be recommended?
Again it depends on what type of flying you like to do. A share is certainly an option but from my experience, you need to be flying about 50 hours per year to make it pay. On paper, aircraft look cheap to operate but if you own a share there's always a chance of a mechanical issue that can cost thousands to fix. It's definitely cheaper than owning an aircraft outright. If you're buying into a certified aircraft (e.g. Cessna 172, Piper PA28 etc.), make sure you do your homework as these can be very expensive to maintain.Do most people continue to rent by the hour from a few different places for their flying? Or is it a better idea to get a share in an aircraft. Then I suppose there is joining a club like the airport flying club, Trim flying club etc where it might be easier to rent aircraft for a longer period of time? (i.e overnight trips/a few days)
Hi Papa8,Papa8 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:49 am Hi Fly22,
Tailwheel can be done straight after. I even did some hours in tailwheel aircraft getting my PPL. Another type of flying training some PPLs in Ireland have done is the TMG (Touring Motorglider) class rating. It introduces you to some areas of flying you don’t get to see much otherwise, soaring, airbrake to descend instead of flaps/sideslipping. Also the high lift/drag ratio can give you more options in the event of an emergency. There have only been a handful of these aircraft in the country and only a couple of examiners but hours on SEP(TMG) renew your SEP(A). I had thought one motorglider that was previously used for training went to Waterford Aero Club. I think TMG-flying just seems a bit unknown to many pilots and I don’t think there is a club offering it presently in Ireland which is a shame.
STOL-flying is another pursuit that Irish PPLs can look at. FunFly Aerosports can probably do great STOL work in those ICP Savannahs but there is no course. STOL approach is how all landings/takeoff at airfields like Coonagh, Bantry and Limetree are done.
I can’t speak for what is possible with a seaplane rating in Ireland but NFC used to do it and somewhere up north does it too. I think landing on a lake/inlet is pretty “romantic” flying but the main activity near Ireland for this I think is Scotland. It possibly has a little more usability in Ireland compared to the night rating though I am open to correction on this, having never looked into it really.
You mentioned flying away in an aircraft for a few days. Partly it’s the conflicting utilization (you flying a little vs the lessons and local flying that could be flown while you have the aircraft) that I think puts clubs off letting aircraft away for a few days. There are other reasons too. On the other hand, if you brought club members flying with you, sharing legs of the journey with good utilisation perhaps some would oblige.
Another form of expanding your skills and keeping the interest going is type familiarization on various aircraft your license affords you. I got my PPL and within a couple of years let it lapse. I am returning to it again at the moment and will be re-learning (back to skills test level) in a Robin which is an aircraft I was never in.
I would say jump straight in. It's a completely new set of skills so I don't think it makes much difference how much experience you have. Once it's in the air, it's the same as any other aircraft - it's just the transition between the two that's the problem!Yes the tailwheel course is definitely something that is on the list, like you've said I've heard its a little like starting all over again, sounds great fun though. Would it be recommended to build up some more hours after the PPL before attempting it or do most people jump straight in?
I guess this depends on the club. I know at FunFly where I fly, we have a dedicated aircraft for member self-fly. It's not on the training approval so can't be used for any initial training so we encourage members to take it away flying - particularly during the week when slots are more available.I suppose the dream in terms of flying would be to do some touring around Ireland Europe and even beyond. Probably unrealistic I am guessing to be able to take a plane for more than a day or two if you are renting it or part of a club? I'm guessing a share or ownership would be easier for that.
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