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I am interested in hearing broad feedback from any current or past graduates of this course.
Feel free to post openly if you would like to share your thoughts / experiences or if you prefer to pm that is quite alright aswell.
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B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
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Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
Educate yourself in something other than aviation would be my recommendation, aim for a good job in another sector then you can either use the proceeds of that career to pay for a hobby of flying or pay towards the training for a career in flying.
In hindsight that's what I would have done. Why limit yourself to aviation. If you went into an interview with a degree in Business, Economics or Engineering and a pilots license your going to be just as valuable to that company as if you go in with degree. More importantly though it'll be more valuable to yourself when aviation goes through its inevitable troughs .These courses are designed to dazzle the imaginative mind of young wannabe pilots more so than to get the same people jobs.
Find out what an approved DCU training facility is also. You don't want to lock yourself to tightly into particular schools if you decide to fly.
In hindsight that's what I would have done. Why limit yourself to aviation. If you went into an interview with a degree in Business, Economics or Engineering and a pilots license your going to be just as valuable to that company as if you go in with degree. More importantly though it'll be more valuable to yourself when aviation goes through its inevitable troughs .These courses are designed to dazzle the imaginative mind of young wannabe pilots more so than to get the same people jobs.
Find out what an approved DCU training facility is also. You don't want to lock yourself to tightly into particular schools if you decide to fly.
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Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
Bob nailed it in one there so defo second that.
You don't even need a Junior Cert to get a flying job. I'm sure the degree would come in handy but much wiser to hedge your bets with a different degree and career option.
I've come across a few older guys that had been made redundant several times throughout their career. I remember one in particular who was a maths lecturer in his previous life so he was never really out of work.
Just a final note, I'm not sure if the degree makes students pass a class 1 medical at the very start but it would be a good idea to do one, even independently, before starting it.
Best of luck!
You don't even need a Junior Cert to get a flying job. I'm sure the degree would come in handy but much wiser to hedge your bets with a different degree and career option.
I've come across a few older guys that had been made redundant several times throughout their career. I remember one in particular who was a maths lecturer in his previous life so he was never really out of work.
Just a final note, I'm not sure if the degree makes students pass a class 1 medical at the very start but it would be a good idea to do one, even independently, before starting it.
Best of luck!
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Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
hi guys
i have just finished first year on this course, i had my ppl before i started this course so wasnt going in with the illusion i am going to be flying or getting up close and personal with aircraft, i would agree yes you dont need a degree to be a pilot but this course is not about churning out pilots it also has the aim of producing people to go into management in the industry and not become pilots at all.
the modules in the degree itself are basically just what any business degree has and they dont really have any relation to aviation there are one or two that are aviation specific.
i would say its a good degree as it will equip you to work in any business arena as the degree is quite broad,
i have just finished first year on this course, i had my ppl before i started this course so wasnt going in with the illusion i am going to be flying or getting up close and personal with aircraft, i would agree yes you dont need a degree to be a pilot but this course is not about churning out pilots it also has the aim of producing people to go into management in the industry and not become pilots at all.
the modules in the degree itself are basically just what any business degree has and they dont really have any relation to aviation there are one or two that are aviation specific.
i would say its a good degree as it will equip you to work in any business arena as the degree is quite broad,
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Dont be a fool and concentrate on an aviation course.
Maths is what you should try to do if you have the required grades.
OR Dentist, Doctor or Vet where you will actually get a job when you finish. Instead of looking in the begging bowl like the rest of us.
Maths is what you should try to do if you have the required grades.
OR Dentist, Doctor or Vet where you will actually get a job when you finish. Instead of looking in the begging bowl like the rest of us.
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Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
it just so happens that if i wasnt to have seen this course i would have ended up doing a business course anyway so i thought this course would be perfect i come out with a management degree so if i choose to go somewhere completely different than aviation i can,WILCO.XMG wrote:Dont be a fool and concentrate on an aviation course.
Maths is what you should try to do if you have the required grades.
OR Dentist, Doctor or Vet where you will actually get a job when you finish. Instead of looking in the begging bowl like the rest of us.
i do take your point of having a degree very different from aviation but unfortunately i would not have the grades or be interested in a field like the above.
i do think people are out to knock this course before it has a chance, lets give it a chance and see where the first cohort of students end up then we can judge it,
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Hey libertyxl2flyer
Is there any plans you know of to run this course part time for those already in the industry....
Have you found it difficult, alot of study and writing papers?
Enjoyable, what you expected ?
Best regards
B
Is there any plans you know of to run this course part time for those already in the industry....
Have you found it difficult, alot of study and writing papers?
Enjoyable, what you expected ?
Best regards
B
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Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
hi blueskies
no as i know there is no plans to run this part time, as they are having enough trouble running it full time !
in general its not too difficult, there isnt alot of essays and that its more tests the course is very slow to kick into gear but im hoping because its the first year that it will be all sorted when i go back for second year.
if your really into aviation you will grin and bear the boring parts and get your head down for the hard parts the science in particular, i find there is few "top gun" heads who came in knowing nothing about aviation at all and where under the illusion the where going to get handed a pair of aviators and get into an aircraft !!!!
which couldnt be further from the truth,
long story short would i come in to the course if i was already flying commercial , NO , unless you wanted to get a degree in business because i dont think you will learn else that could benefit your career other than the business we do as it will well equip you to slot into management when your flying days are done.
i hope my opinion will change this year and i hope to be able to come on here and say how great the degree is !
no as i know there is no plans to run this part time, as they are having enough trouble running it full time !
in general its not too difficult, there isnt alot of essays and that its more tests the course is very slow to kick into gear but im hoping because its the first year that it will be all sorted when i go back for second year.
if your really into aviation you will grin and bear the boring parts and get your head down for the hard parts the science in particular, i find there is few "top gun" heads who came in knowing nothing about aviation at all and where under the illusion the where going to get handed a pair of aviators and get into an aircraft !!!!
which couldnt be further from the truth,
long story short would i come in to the course if i was already flying commercial , NO , unless you wanted to get a degree in business because i dont think you will learn else that could benefit your career other than the business we do as it will well equip you to slot into management when your flying days are done.
i hope my opinion will change this year and i hope to be able to come on here and say how great the degree is !
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Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
Jesus déjà vu...the course is very slow to kick into gear but im hoping because its the first year that it will be all sorted when i go back for second year.
I wouldn't hold your breath on the second year.Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
Thank you for the answer Bob. I too had a similar question. It sucks to hear it but I guess the truth isn't always pretty.
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Re: B.Sc. in Aviation Mgt with Pilot Studies
Any current students on the propgramme care to share links to any of the lecturers bio pages?
I'm interested in learning more about the backgrounds of those providing the lectures, i.e. academic achievements, prior lecturing experience, published research articles, any experience from the commercial world and if so, to what extent and so on.
The programme structure follows some of the main topic areas covered by most primary generalist business degree's. However, the aviation topic electives are the areas where I really want to hear other students comments and feedback, in particular if you got any links to the lecturer's bio pages on DCU website or the lecturer names who are teaching the aviation streamed elective topic areas of study.
Can anybody assist?
It's a shame DCU don't provide richer details under the career tab for this course in terms of listing examples of the companies where grads of this course end up being employed - therefore demonstrating the real world outcomes of successful grads in attaining the desired employment opportunities within the aviation sector or related segments.
I'm interested in learning more about the backgrounds of those providing the lectures, i.e. academic achievements, prior lecturing experience, published research articles, any experience from the commercial world and if so, to what extent and so on.
The programme structure follows some of the main topic areas covered by most primary generalist business degree's. However, the aviation topic electives are the areas where I really want to hear other students comments and feedback, in particular if you got any links to the lecturer's bio pages on DCU website or the lecturer names who are teaching the aviation streamed elective topic areas of study.
Can anybody assist?
It's a shame DCU don't provide richer details under the career tab for this course in terms of listing examples of the companies where grads of this course end up being employed - therefore demonstrating the real world outcomes of successful grads in attaining the desired employment opportunities within the aviation sector or related segments.