As an inexperienced pilot flying into an unfamiliar airport, if I receive an instruction, even an "unusual" one from the controller, I will have a strong presumption that the instruction is correct and in line with local procedures.thought that while the circumstances of the landing were unusual, he complied with the instructions of the controller, who he felt was being helpful.
Completely agree David,OnTheNumbers wrote: I feel sorry for the pilot of the Cessna; he gave ATC an option to change the outcome by offering to orbit which was rejected. Maybe I'm missing some of the facts but I would consider that his suggestion of an orbit was an implicit questioning of the clearance.
I'm not 100% sure if in the RT presence of an ATCO and Aer Lingus Capt & FO, professionals who I would assume know more than me, that I would not have done the same thing.
I know now what I will say.
Maybe the terminology was incorrect then, It says he offered! Which means it was in his head that it was wrong to be doing so. So maybe he should have REQUESTED an orbit until the AC was departed off the active runway.OnTheNumbers wrote:I know you said you wouldn't have felt comfortable about landing over the A320 but if you were in that position; if your offer of an orbit was declined, you were cleared to land and were requested to land long, do you think you might have done the same?
Dunno but I have been in one with an instructor with 25kts or so at 90 degrees or so....StrikeCommand wrote:Note that incident report says wind was 200/13kts on RWY 27 - this was a good old crosswind - possibly close to the limit for a 172 would it not?
But in that case the Airbus wouldn't have been on his flighpath.....except of course he decided to take a dive to the right or left at the last minute. Flying over is a different story...windshear, engine failure, etc. could easily cause increased sink rate down onto the bus.MCRO wrote:Taking into account the huge amount of airspace available for a safe approach,Need the landing Cessna have passed any closer to the waiting Airbus than he would had the Airbus been waiting at the Holding Point?
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