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Post by Michael Gilligan » Fri May 05, 2006 10:33 pm

Where are you staying I was looking at Jurys at Heathrow or the Holiday Inn at Heathrow, there is a bus direct to Farnborough from the Airport and back for 20 pound return, its actually cheaper to fly to London than it is to get into Mach1
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Post by Michael Gilligan » Fri May 05, 2006 11:32 pm

Just look at this display line up for Waddington and only 13 pounds to get in its mouth watering 13 POUNDS :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D






RAF WADDINGTON INTERNATIONAL AIR SHOW DISPLAYS 2006

Displays

Military Aircraft - Flying
Canberra PR-9 - 39 (1PRU) Sqn RAF Marham
Battle of Britain Memorial Flight - BBMF RAF Coningsby (To commemorate the Spitfire's 70th year, the formation will be the Lancaster and 2 Spits)
The RAF Falcons - RAF Parachute Display Team RAF Brize Norton
E-3D Sentry - NATO AEWF (E-3D Component) 8/23 Sqns RAF Waddington
Nimrod RMk1 - 51 Sqn RAF Waddington
Typhoon - 29 Sqn RAF Coningsby
Grob Tutor G115E - 1 Sqn 1 EFTS RAF Cranwell
Hawk T Mk 1 - 208 Sqn RAF Valley (In commemorative paint scheme to celebrate 85 years of No4 FTS
Tornado GR-4 - XV(R) Sqn RAF Lossiemouth
Tucano TMk1 - 72(R) Sqn RAF Linton-on-Ouse
Hercules C130J - 24/30 Sqns RAF Lyneham
Harrier GR-7A - 20(R) Sqn RAF Wittering
Sea King HAR Mk3 - SAR Force RAF St Mawgan
The Red Arrows - RAF Aerobatic Team RAF Scampton
Merlin - 28(AC) Sqn RAF Benson
The Blue Eagles - Army Air Corps Aerobatic Display Team
The Black Cats - Royal Navy Lynx Display Team
Orion P-3K - 5 Sqn RNZAF
Boeing 757-200 - 40 Sqn RNZAF
Saab J-105 - Tigerstaffel Horsching Austrian Air Force
Chinook - 18(B) Sqn RAF Odiham
Civilian Aircraft - Flying
The Aerostars - 6 x Yak50
Utterly Butterly Barnstormers - Aerobatics & Wingwalking Demonstration
Team Condor - RAFGSA Glider Aerobatic Team
Falcon - FR Aviaton Ltd
2Excel Display Team - 4 x Extra 300LP
Red Bull Matadors - 2 x Su26
Road Angel Aerobatics - Singleton Su26
Spitfire - Private (Paul Day)
Spitfire (9/10 Scale) - Privately owned and built Static Displays
Military Aircraft - Static
Typhoon F1 - Fast Jet OEU
Hercules C130J - RAF Lyneham
E-3A Sentry - NATO AEWF (E-3A Component) NAB Geilenkirchen
Tornado GR4* - 31 Sqn RAF Marham
Tucano TMk1 - CFS(T) Sqn RAF Linton on Ouse
E-3D Sentry - NATO AEWF (E-3D Component) 8/23 Sqns RAF Waddington
Puma - 230 Sqn RAF Aldergrove
Tornado F3 - Fast Jet OEU
Sea King AEW Mk2A - 849 NAS HQ RNAS Culdrose
Merlin HM Mk1 - 820 NAS - RNAS Culdrose
Lynx Mk3/8 - Royal Navy
Sea King Mk4 - 846 NAS - RNAS Yeovilton
Jetstream T2 - Royal Navy
Chinook - RAF Odiham
Harrier GR-7A -
Tornado GR-4 - Fast Jet OEU
Hawk T Mk 1* - 100 Sqn RAF Leeming
Nimrod R1 - 51 Sqn RAF Waddington
Sentinel R1 - 5(AC) Sqn RAF Waddington (P)
Dominie TMk1 - 55(R) Sqn RAF Cranwell
Kingair B200 - 45(R) Sqn RAF Cranwell
Canberra PR-9 - 39 Sqn RAF Marham
Phantom RF-4 - Hellenic Air Force
Grob Tutor G115E -
Canberra B2/6(mod) WK163 - Air Atlantique. This very aircraft captured the World Altitude Record, 70,310ft, on 28 August 1957
Tornado - AG51 (Recce Wing) German Air Force
Saab J-105 - Tigerstaffel Horsching Austrian Air Force
Tornado F3 -
Griffin - RAF Shawbury
F-16 - RNLAF
Tornado GR-4 -
Typhoon - 29 Sqn RAF Coningsby
Civilian Aircraft - Static
Auster (up to 10 ac various marks) - International Auster Group
2 Gliders - Trent Valley Gliding Club
De Havilland Chipmunk - Private
Bulldog - Private
Venture T2 Motorised Glider - Buckminster Gliding Club
Microlight JAB/RU 450/UL - Private
Spitfire (9/10 Scale) - Privately owned and built
Antonov An2 - Privately owned
Falcon - FR Aviaton Ltd
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Post by Dutch Roll » Sat May 06, 2006 1:32 pm

were staying in the eurolodge in clapham,its handy,a direct train from gatwick to clapham,and a direct train from clapham to farnborough main,and shuttle busses from der to the show
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Post by K Byrne » Sun May 07, 2006 10:40 am

In all fairness guys the "toys for boys" show in RDS was ?17.50 + ?5 parking to get in, in this case the entry is only ?2.50 into airshow!!
The Event centre has that type of expo on site i also understand Eurocopter will have a EC120/135 on display along with Schweizer Helicopters 333/300Cbi and Sloane with Agusta/Robinson.
When you take into account the Accomadation costs for Salthill its not that attractive,also looking forward to seeing the Breitling Team.

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Post by Heliops » Sun May 07, 2006 3:11 pm

K Byrne wrote:When you take into account the Accomadation costs for Salthill its not that attractive,also looking forward to seeing the Breitling Team.



Are you having a laugh? Is he serious? Are u serious? The people at Salthill do everything for us to come to their show and what do we have to pay them? Not a single cent, nothin, i dont know of anywhere else where you can go and sit inside Blackhawks etc and ur moaning about accommodation costs? gimme a break, heck even the parking is free...

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Post by ceatach » Sun May 07, 2006 3:36 pm

Michael Gilligan wrote:Just look at this display line up for Waddington and only 13 pounds to get in its mouth watering 13 POUNDS :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D






RAF WADDINGTON INTERNATIONAL AIR SHOW DISPLAYS 2006

Displays

Military Aircraft - Flying
Canberra PR-9 - 39 (1PRU) Sqn RAF Marham
Battle of Britain Memorial Flight - BBMF RAF Coningsby (To commemorate the Spitfire's 70th year, the formation will be the Lancaster and 2 Spits)
The RAF Falcons - RAF Parachute Display Team RAF Brize Norton
E-3D Sentry - NATO AEWF (E-3D Component) 8/23 Sqns RAF Waddington
Nimrod RMk1 - 51 Sqn RAF Waddington
Typhoon - 29 Sqn RAF Coningsby
Grob Tutor G115E - 1 Sqn 1 EFTS RAF Cranwell
Hawk T Mk 1 - 208 Sqn RAF Valley (In commemorative paint scheme to celebrate 85 years of No4 FTS
Tornado GR-4 - XV(R) Sqn RAF Lossiemouth
Tucano TMk1 - 72(R) Sqn RAF Linton-on-Ouse
Hercules C130J - 24/30 Sqns RAF Lyneham
Harrier GR-7A - 20(R) Sqn RAF Wittering
Sea King HAR Mk3 - SAR Force RAF St Mawgan
The Red Arrows - RAF Aerobatic Team RAF Scampton
Merlin - 28(AC) Sqn RAF Benson
The Blue Eagles - Army Air Corps Aerobatic Display Team
The Black Cats - Royal Navy Lynx Display Team
Orion P-3K - 5 Sqn RNZAF
Boeing 757-200 - 40 Sqn RNZAF
Saab J-105 - Tigerstaffel Horsching Austrian Air Force
Chinook - 18(B) Sqn RAF Odiham
Civilian Aircraft - Flying
The Aerostars - 6 x Yak50
Utterly Butterly Barnstormers - Aerobatics & Wingwalking Demonstration
Team Condor - RAFGSA Glider Aerobatic Team
Falcon - FR Aviaton Ltd
2Excel Display Team - 4 x Extra 300LP
Red Bull Matadors - 2 x Su26
Road Angel Aerobatics - Singleton Su26
Spitfire - Private (Paul Day)
Spitfire (9/10 Scale) - Privately owned and built Static Displays
Military Aircraft - Static
Typhoon F1 - Fast Jet OEU
Hercules C130J - RAF Lyneham
E-3A Sentry - NATO AEWF (E-3A Component) NAB Geilenkirchen
Tornado GR4* - 31 Sqn RAF Marham
Tucano TMk1 - CFS(T) Sqn RAF Linton on Ouse
E-3D Sentry - NATO AEWF (E-3D Component) 8/23 Sqns RAF Waddington
Puma - 230 Sqn RAF Aldergrove
Tornado F3 - Fast Jet OEU
Sea King AEW Mk2A - 849 NAS HQ RNAS Culdrose
Merlin HM Mk1 - 820 NAS - RNAS Culdrose
Lynx Mk3/8 - Royal Navy
Sea King Mk4 - 846 NAS - RNAS Yeovilton
Jetstream T2 - Royal Navy
Chinook - RAF Odiham
Harrier GR-7A -
Tornado GR-4 - Fast Jet OEU
Hawk T Mk 1* - 100 Sqn RAF Leeming
Nimrod R1 - 51 Sqn RAF Waddington
Sentinel R1 - 5(AC) Sqn RAF Waddington (P)
Dominie TMk1 - 55(R) Sqn RAF Cranwell
Kingair B200 - 45(R) Sqn RAF Cranwell
Canberra PR-9 - 39 Sqn RAF Marham
Phantom RF-4 - Hellenic Air Force
Grob Tutor G115E -
Canberra B2/6(mod) WK163 - Air Atlantique. This very aircraft captured the World Altitude Record, 70,310ft, on 28 August 1957
Tornado - AG51 (Recce Wing) German Air Force
Saab J-105 - Tigerstaffel Horsching Austrian Air Force
Tornado F3 -
Griffin - RAF Shawbury
F-16 - RNLAF
Tornado GR-4 -
Typhoon - 29 Sqn RAF Coningsby
Civilian Aircraft - Static
Auster (up to 10 ac various marks) - International Auster Group
2 Gliders - Trent Valley Gliding Club
De Havilland Chipmunk - Private
Bulldog - Private
Venture T2 Motorised Glider - Buckminster Gliding Club
Microlight JAB/RU 450/UL - Private
Spitfire (9/10 Scale) - Privately owned and built
Antonov An2 - Privately owned
Falcon - FR Aviaton Ltd


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Post by K Byrne » Sun May 07, 2006 6:13 pm

Can i highlight the following,

Duxford Flying Legends 21st May entry ?28.00 (sterling)
Biggin Hill 3rd 4th June entry ?20.00 (sterling)
Fairford July ?30.95 (sterling)

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Post by Michael Gilligan » Sun May 07, 2006 9:41 pm

So K Brne what exactly are you saying, are you telling me that everyone that comes to Salthill stays overnight. I have never stayed in Salthill. What if you are staying near Punchestown that puts a hell of a different prospective on your costings plus the cost of entry into the show.

Your post has got to be the most silly excuse for entry charges that I have ever seen and its clear that you dont mind paying over the top charges for a very ordinary air display.

At the end of the day a FREE Air Show no matter where it is held gets my vote everytime so for that reason I will not go to Mach 1 but i will be in LImerick for the Red Bull Flutag which is also FREE. I will also be in Salthill.
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Post by David Scully » Sun May 07, 2006 10:34 pm

Good evening all, we organised the Airshow at Bray last year which was a free event and cost in the region of 75k to stage. We recieved no funding from the local council to stage the event and relied on local Hotels and Bars to help out with the costs of staging event and even this wasnt enough to cover all costs.
Can i please draw your attention to the following points,

The fee for the venue(Ptown) to stage the event is in excess of what it cost to stage the entire event at Bray last year.
Because we are now on private land we have to pay non public duties to the Gardai (not the case on public land)
We also have a duty of care to provide Toilets, Drinking Water, on site.
We also have to pay for Barriers,Waste Disposal,Car Parking Co,Private Security,Event Controller,Event Manager,Production Manager,H+S Manager Airside,H+S Manager Crowdside,......... i can go on.
I have been involved in Aviation for the last number of years and very proactive to promoting aviation, i would love nothing better than to have a free show but how could the above costs be met!!
Biggin Hill may not happen next year because of a non public duty payment in excess of ?70k to the Police/traffic plan involved in staging the show.
I hope this is of help to some of the above comments, there will be a certain amount of free tickets allocated to forun members of Flying In Ireland.

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Post by Sticksforward » Sun May 07, 2006 10:48 pm

MICHAEL,
YOU ARE HAVING A GOOD OLD GO AT K BYRNE, WHY DO YOU THINK AIRSHOWS AT THE DON WERE SO WELL ATTENDED IN THE EIGHTIES AND UP TO 2000 AND THAT WAS A PAY IN............
I THINK DAVE IS MAKING ALOT OF SENSE IN HIS POSTING REGARDING COSTS ETC, A TICKET PRICE TO A CONCERT ANSWERS THAT FOR YOU.
I ALSO READ IN THE PAPER LAST WEEK THAT SOME BILL HAS NOW BEEN PASSED THAT THE GARDAI AND EMERGENCY SERVICES WILL NOW BE CHARGING FOR SERVICES AT PUBLIC EVENTS, SO MAYBE SALTHILL WILL GET A TICKET PRICE OR IS IT THINGS ARE DONE DIFFERENT IN DA WEST.

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Post by K Byrne » Mon May 08, 2006 7:54 am

Well said SF, the oxygen music festival at Punchestown costs in excess of 2 million to stage hence the ticket price of ?130.
I welcome the idea of the airshow coming to Co Kildare and Punchestown is a ideal venue to stage a airshow, my previous points remain stated and i will be there on the 4th and 5th.

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Post by Sticksforward » Mon May 08, 2006 9:28 am

MAYBE THE ORGANISER FROM THE SALTHILL SHOW COULD POST RE STAGING COSTS ETC AND HOW A FREE EVENT CAN BE RUN.
DO THEY GET FUNDING ASSISTANCE FROM THE COUNCIL, DO THEY PAY FOR GARDAI,FIRE BRIGADE,EVENT MANAGEMENT FEES.

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Post by K Byrne » Mon May 08, 2006 11:56 am

I see MACI, NMA, Pc Pilots, and the Gliding Assoc will have stands at the airshow, along with Heli companies etc. This event is promoting GA and Aviation in general and people should think before they post negative thoughts and slagging off event. At least the organiser is honest and upront as to why there is a entrance fee. :oops:

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Post by Sticksforward » Mon May 08, 2006 2:52 pm

HEY KB, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A FREE TICKET! VALVID POINTS ABOUT THE PROMOTION OF GA AND ITS ALSO GREAT TO SEE A GOOD EVENT FILLING THE GAP THAT HAS BEEN LEFT FROM AIR SPEC.
I WORKED WITH THE CIVIL DEFENCE ON BAL 2000 AND 117,000 PEOPLE TURNED UP ON THE SUNDAY AND THAT WAS A PAY IN EVENT.SO THAT SORT OF KNOCKS THE ARGUEMENTS ABOVE OFF THE SHELF.

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Post by Gear Up » Mon May 08, 2006 6:52 pm

1st posting and new member to this forum, judging by the negative posts earlier not sure if i want to hang around too long. My own opinion is one of delight that a airshow is to be staged at Punchestown this year and hope it is made a annual event, i fully intend to bring my 2 kids along to enjoy a wonderful day out and enjoy the airshow.Love to see it back at baldonnel in the near future and i have heard rumours and hope they are true. I visited baldonnel in 86,87,88,89, 93, and the last one in 2000 and had no problem with paying in,+ btw the price for 2000 was 40 punts per car very little for a full days entertainment. The points raised by the organiser regarding costs etc i fully understand, it is worth noting the easter celebrations in Dublin cost in excess of ?250,000 to stage (taxpayers money) so it was far from a free event. It is my understanding the Galway airshow is very well supported by GCC which again is taxpayers money so i woudnt call it totally a free show.

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