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Carlow - Bachelor of Engineering in Aircraft Systems

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:50 am
by Hawker
Hey, first post.

Hoping someone here can help.

Has anyone here had any experience with, or starting this course (aircraft systems), this year?
http://www.itcarlow.ie/prospectus/Electronic_Mechanical_Aerospace0708.pdf

I'm dropping down to the campus today to have a look around and ask a few questions about it.

Two things that caught my eye:

Special Features:
"Students will also cover the material required to complete
the ground studies for a private pilot licence. "


In the course of their studies students will be also encouraged to take the JAR examinations so as to satisfy the educational requirements for an EASA licence.

Could someone explain JAR exams and EASA licenses to me, or send me a link?

Another thing is the Physics in the 1st Semester. It wasn't a requirement for the course (haven't done any sciences subjects since 3rd year)

Would they expect everyone to be on the same level, or just throw you in the deep end with it?

Any other info would really be appreciated.[/u]

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:12 pm
by Dutch Roll
EASA Exams 12 modules,4 Essays for Category A,B1,B2 these are the exams you need to gain a license,pass mark is 75%

A license you need 3 years experience maybe 2.
B1/B2 5 years experience

If you want a career as an engineer/technician/mechanic or whatever they call us your better off doing an apprenticeship/traineeship as OJT is provided and exams are properly structured.
but if you want the college life go for it you will enjoy it but be warned you WILL NOT become a licensed aircraft mechanic/engineer after this course so if you want a fast track entry to this career i wouldn't recommend it,however these are my opinions.
theres also an advantage of doing the course getting the qualification and getting a job in maintenance planning or other office work but again these jobs may require you to already be an experienced engineer as well as the academic side.

Physics is fairly basic,principles of newton etc,you maybe thrown in at the deep end but it's grand after a while.If you haven't done physics since third year I dont see it as a problem because some people havn't done it at all.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:19 pm
by airoshane
I m a second year in that course.
The HUGE advantage of this course is that if you stick 3 years and pass all the EASA exams you can become an aircraft inspector if you do 2 years work experience and a maintenance type rating. This is because Carlow are EASA approved.

If you want to do an apprenticeship you can apply to the likes of Air Atlanta or Shannon Aerospace. If you go this way and want to be an inspector you need 5 years work experience. A maintenance type rating is needed to work on a particular aircraft.

Its hard to earn a lot of money if your a mechanic. Inspecting on contract work it where all the money is. I know contractors who are on 40 euro an hour. An inspectors job involves inspecting and signing off mechanics work. It is a nice easy job and you don't get dirty.

Physics shouldn't be an issue. The notes the IT give are very good. Be warned, first year has a lot of electronic work.

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:25 am
by Dutch Roll
Is somebody having you on? anyone with a B/C license with maintenance approval can inspect work,''Inspector'' sounds like an air atlanta term.2 years exp is no way enough to be an MA holder.

what would you know about certifying and getting dirty?? have you done it?well if your not willing to get dirty your not going to make a very good mechanic are you?

Hawker I will gaurantee you that getting the foot in the door of a company is much quicker than the academic route,but the choice is yours,aer arann are looking for apprentices at the moment if your interested

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:21 pm
by airoshane
I have my route planned. In 4 years time I hope to have a full EASA 66 B1 licence. I will also have an Ordinary Degree in Aircraft Systems. I know Aircraft Systems won't help with the hands on experience but its a qualification and I know for a fact that only 2 years work experience is needed because Carlow IT are part 147 approved.

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:19 pm
by Dutch Roll
who will take on someone with no experience?? i know plenty of people in that boat,no jobs.

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:35 pm
by Bob
Is somebody having you on? anyone with a B/C license with maintenance approval can inspect work,''Inspector'' sounds like an air atlanta term.2 years exp is no way enough to be an MA holder.


You need a type rating on the aircraft to inspect as well as your company approval and a valid B1 or B2 licence. You've also to build up the necessary experiance to go with it.

The HUGE advantage of this course is that if you stick 3 years and pass all the EASA exams you can become an aircraft inspector if you do 2 years work experience and a maintenance type rating. This is because Carlow are EASA approved.


That is the greatest load of bollix, firstly you've just waisted 3 years in carlow and secondly it'll be another 3 at least before you've a B1, bearing in mind that the IAA aren't the most helpfull. Now even if Air Atlanta have kept you that long it's at their discression whether they want to put you on a type course. And, on the off chance you get the course Air Atlanta will bond you to the company for 3 years so therefore your talking the guts ten years before your out making all this money contracting.

I suggest if your interested in the Maintainence end of things get an apprenticeship if you want to fly head straight for that or as dutch said go to Carlow for the craic for a while then go flying.

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:28 am
by Dutch Roll
well bob,john tells me your overalls are still clean because your a cone,is that true???

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:50 pm
by Bob
They would be if the knuckle draggers would clean up after themselves. I'm Avionics alright, thank f**k :)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:21 pm
by JFH
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:02 pm
by Dutch Roll
seen the roof cleaning antics the other day,john leader of the pack.you do any essays bob???