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Irish Lights new EC135

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:59 pm
by bolkow
As has been mentioned elsewhere, both the bolkows will be retired at the end of the year or November to be replaced by an ec135 to service the lighthouses. Has anybody any idea if this will be a new build machine or sourced from somewhere else. And does anybody have any idea what its colour scheme is likely to be?
Any info greatly appreciated.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:50 pm
by CVR
I was in Eurocopter UK (Oxford) last week doing an EC130 type and the Irish Lights 135 was in the hanger. Its painted the same orange and blue as the Bolkow's and is currently being kitted out. Looks like a nice aircraft.

Irish Lights EC135.

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:08 pm
by 500 fan
As far as I know the heli is due to arrive next month. As soon as it does I hope to visit Westpoint to get some photos. Bolkow, I'll send them on to you when I get them, hopefully sometime before Christmas. I heard somewhere as well that EI-BLD is going to be retained as a back-up machine for the EC135.

Here is a link to a few old Irish Helicopter Ltd photos;

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/inde ... =12334&hl=

Scroll down for a nice one of EI-BDI doing it's thing on O'Connell Street/Middle Abbey Street.

500 Fan.

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:25 pm
by hugoj_air
The photo directly below EI-BDI Middle Abbey Street was taken on the
north coast and shows EI-ATO and G-ANFH (not 'WFH) on the ground at
the Rosepenna Hotel Downings Co Donegal late summer 1970. The guy
who posted the photo's requested info on this one. I tried to send a
message, but not been a member wasn't allowed. If you know or can
contact him, could you please pass this on.

Regards,
Hugo.

New EC135

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:26 am
by bolkow
Thansk 500fan, I will look forward to yuor photos, and those others of bam/bfh and bdi were great. oaksie was certainly flying back then so I guess it was him or Fo'C perhaps?

Re: Irish Lights EC135.

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:38 pm
by bolkow
500 fan wrote:As far as I know the heli is due to arrive next month. As soon as it does I hope to visit Westpoint to get some photos. Bolkow, I'll send them on to you when I get them, hopefully sometime before Christmas. I heard somewhere as well that EI-BLD is going to be retained as a back-up machine for the EC135.

Here is a link to a few old Irish Helicopter Ltd photos;

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/inde ... =12334&hl=

Scroll down for a nice one of EI-BDI doing it's thing on O'Connell Street/Middle Abbey Street.

500 Fan.


you're probably correct about BLD being retained as the back up machine as I heard _LIT is due a main transmission change costing so 70.000 Euros and could probably be bought currently for 200.000 euros. BLD is the previous unstretched bolkow whilst LIT has the stretch and was only acquired in 96, ex dubai police I believe. Only 4000 hours on it when it arrived but now around the 10000 mark, whilst BLD is touching 16000. Boy what an anorak I am, I dont suppose our Oxford visitor noticed the reg of the new machine? Or whether its a new build? You never know if you dont ask, eh?

Re: Irish Lights EC135.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:21 am
by 500 fan
you're probably correct about BLD being retained as the back up machine as I heard _LIT is due a main transmission change costing so 70.000 Euros and could probably be bought currently for 200.000 euros. BLD is the previous unstretched bolkow whilst LIT has the stretch and was only acquired in 96, ex dubai police I believe. Only 4000 hours on it when it arrived but now around the 10000 mark, whilst BLD is touching 16000. Boy what an anorak I am, I dont suppose our Oxford visitor noticed the reg of the new machine? Or whether its a new build? You never know if you dont ask, eh?[/quote]

When I spoke to Irish Lights last year, they were surprised that it would take 18 months from signing the order to receiving their new helicopter. I would imagine that it is a new-build machine and not second-hand and refurbished. Maybe someone here knows better than I, but I think Eurocopter UK is a completion centre for new helis only. Perhaps they refurbish second-hand machines as well, not sure. Both Garda EC135s came through Oxford before delivery.

500 Fan.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:11 pm
by bolkow
Those pics above were interesting, but I thought that Bell 212 shed a main rotor blade in Nigeria which resulted in the crash. I saw it not too long before it departed and they had just changed the main blades as it had completed 100000 hours. I know that bolkow BDI ditched off donegal after an error in the fuel tank selection. I remember BLD when it first arrived with only 600 hours on it, and remember the painting of LIT in the hangar in cork as it was re-assesmbled

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:41 pm
by Bladecrack
500,

You are correct that EC UK specialise in new helicopter completions, and they recently won tenders for several police EC135's, hence the 18 month lead time on deliveries of new machines. If you look on their website you will see they do sell some used helicopters, although usually only fairly fresh low hours ones, some of which they may have supplied to the first owner, and may have also maintained, so they can vouch for the aircraft history as part of the re-sale.

BC

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:01 am
by hugoj_air
Hi 500,

Thanks for passing on my message to Pontious de Pilot. Dont know
what the event was, only know the location.

Regards,
Hugo.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:27 pm
by 500 fan
Hugo, no problem. Hopefully Pontious de Pilot will post a few more photos soon.

At the risk of hijacking this thread, if any can help with this;

http://www.worldairpics.com/forum/index ... pic=1684.0

it would be greatly appreciated. I have come across a couple of photos since I first posted this appeal but any additional photos of any of the IHL fleet would be most welcome. IrishAirPics (now WorldAirPics) and the Air-Britain gallery have some good shots of some of the IHL fleet. After the Irish Air Corps, Aer Lingus and Ryan Air, Irish Helicopters Ltd must be one of the more important operators in Ireland. They will after all be 50 years young next year! They are a little neglected as regards interest from the aviation historians but hopefully that will change.

Here's a photo of Capt. Mick Conneely warming up EI-BLD before departing Westpoint for another week's flying in support of the Irish Lights contract earlier this year.

Image

500 Fan.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:00 am
by bolkow
500 fan wrote:Hugo, no problem. Hopefully Pontious de Pilot will post a few more photos soon.

At the risk of hijacking this thread, if any can help with this;

http://www.worldairpics.com/forum/index ... pic=1684.0

it would be greatly appreciated. I have come across a couple of photos since I first posted this appeal but any additional photos of any of the IHL fleet would be most welcome. IrishAirPics (now WorldAirPics) and the Air-Britain gallery have some good shots of some of the IHL fleet. After the Irish Air Corps, Aer Lingus and Ryan Air, Irish Helicopters Ltd must be one of the more important operators in Ireland. They will after all be 50 years young next year! They are a little neglected as regards interest from the aviation historians but hopefully that will change.

Here's a photo of Capt. Mick Conneely warming up EI-BLD before departing Westpoint for another week's flying in support of the Irish Lights contract earlier this year.

Image

500 Fan.
I certainly dont ocnsider this a hijack, I spoke to Mich connealy some months ago and he was telling me he is due to retire in March 09, my guess is that he will continue to fly BLD if it remains th eback up ship as I dont imagine he transition to an ec135 for the sake of four months. Its a good shot of BLD, I actually have a graupner bo105 model of BLD flying with the full offshore kit. Mick connealy did see it once at Rosslare, but only briefly, you know Mick, not terribly interested in helicopters really! LOL

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:27 am
by hugoj_air
500

I have a photo of EI-BLD I took at Westpoint 10.04.1986 mostly in
orange colour scheme, with some navy along the top.
I uploaded it to photobucket, but before I could send it the web froze.
I assume America is coming on line and overloading the system.
I'll try again tomorrow or if you want I could mail it direct to you but
I would need your mail address. Mine is attached to my posts.

Hugo.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:14 pm
by hugoj_air
Image

EI-BLD at Westpoint on 11.04.1986

EI-BLD Photo 86'.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:51 pm
by 500 fan
Bolkow, you would be amazed how many commercial pilots aren't "really interested" in helicopters. You could ask many of them to identify four or five different helicopters and some wouldn't be able to tell you a Mil Mi-2 from a Dauphin. I guess it takes all sorts!

Hugo, thanks for that photo. Here is a photo of EI-BLD from 1981 on the Air-Britain site and it lacks the radar nose and has slightly different markings, including the IHL blue "circle", which was actually painted on backwards! It looks like the markings change slightly as each helicopter is overhauled each year.

http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1023089/

Does anyone know when the radar and its associated nose radome were removed from -BLD for good? At a guess I would say it probably corresponds with the introduction of GPS navigation in the early ninties.Thanks.

500 Fan.