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Flying over dublin

Post by soreilly2003 » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:12 pm

Hi,

I am only a student pilot but my understanding is you cannot fly over dublin unless you have a twin engine.
From the RDS today I saw an R44 circling overhead a number of times before heading off.

It was off slightly in the distance so it may have been over the docks area. Is it just a case I got my distances wrong? Wouldnt mind flying over my house a few times in an R44

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Post by JFH » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:11 am

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Post by Nanolight » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:12 am

I presume you mean 'one piston engine' as one piston on it's own wouldn't really be much good to you....

You can fly lower than 1500 over the city if you are approaching or taking of from an airport in a plane though right?
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Post by DonalMW » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:39 am

Yes, you can go as low as 300ft from any plase person or thing for landing or take off, but helicopters always seem to fly over cities at maybe 4 or 500 feet?? I saw an R44 in December last year over dublin city center, and from what I could make out he wasn't a whole pile higher than the Spire.... A Silver R44....

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Post by tu154 » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:45 pm

1500 feet is the rule over congested areas for single engine aircraft and additionally you must be able to land clear of the congested area in the event of an engine failure. Over the city centre iteslf this means looking for green bits and keeping to the quays as much as possible, flying defensively. If ATC instruct you otherwise, YOU are responsible for telling them you can't comply and why, they should take that into consideration and reclear you.
Can't remember the rules for twins offhand, but they have more latitude, having that extra engine to carry them to the scene of the accident.

I think you'll find most helicopters fly according to the rules (which are also the law) in such a controlled environment.
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Post by Dauphin_Army » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:45 pm

Lets not forget about filing our flight plan also...

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Post by RV BLUE » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:51 pm

In Philadelphia we fly this low.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OkD_5Xi2h4

Brook is an instructor, A&P...and ENG tech......

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Post by 900EX » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:25 pm

Show your friend Brooke this.. Just to keep her in check !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GJYkIDABKw
Celer fuga....

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Post by Nanolight » Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:27 pm

Class! Till you get an engine failure....

I heard a story about a pilot flying a display in a chopper at a trade show and when he was finished he got a call off the company basically saying "that machine is not approved for those manouvers, we can't possibly begin to assess the potential damage you caused. Dont fly it or let it be flown by anyone again. Ever."
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Post by inverted » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:40 am

Your right !
That was a trade show in South Africa using a bell 407.
Nice moves but I believe Bell were more than a bit pissed at the pilot.

See the link below and you'll know what I'm talking about !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDWwnnlf38

Although that pilot got his wrists slapped at least he didn't "thump" the machine into the ground like the link shows below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd5lHgsX7LQ

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Post by OW wright » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:56 pm

tu154 wrote:1500 feet is the rule over congested areas for single engine aircraft and additionally you must be able to land clear of the congested area in the event of an engine failure. .


Dublin ATC will tell you not above 1500 over the city, but you should ask for 1700 remember Dublin airport is 240 ft above sea level and the city would be somewhere between or at this height down to sea level at the coast.

The holds over the city have a minimum height of 1700 ft

It's 1500 ft above ground level not sea level.
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Post by Bladecrack » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:58 pm

RV,
That is some great film of the S300C, aint flown one for a year or 2, :( kinda miss them cos they are such a great helicopter to fly and teach in!
8) Regards,
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Post by historical-avi-irl.i8.com » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:57 am

It is questionable about these things, is it ok to fly over St Stephens green when there are 15,000 people in the area, when it is not ok to fly over an event with 6,000 people at it. The law is pretty much as it stands, even if a lot of the time it is misused and abused.

On the flip side, LCY is very safe touch wood...

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