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landing helicopters at the rally

Post by golf_delta_echo » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:57 pm

can anyone tell me if its legal for a helicopter pilot to land anywhere

during the rally pilots where landing all over the place in fields and car parks

is this allowed?

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Post by tu154 » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:37 am

With the landowner's permission and if it is safe to do so, yes you can land anywhere.

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Post by golf_delta_echo » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:13 pm

I know about the landowners permission part,

but some of the helicopters i witnessed where hoping about from field to field on many of the rally stages. I dont think they could possibly all had have permission for that???

anybody have any ideas??/

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Post by hugoj_air » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:56 pm

Only if an incident or an accident occurs would there be any
problem. Even if the reg is taken and reported, as many pilots
have done in the past, if questioned as to why they landed in
that particular field, all the have to say is that it was a
precautionary landing and who's going to question that.
Unless you have a notice banning helicopters from your property
which can be seen from the air, there is very little an owner can
do. You seen it yourself golf_delta_echo, they touch down for a
short period and are gone almost as quickly.

Kal, did you note the registration's of the 16. Also what day and
time did you see them?

hugo.

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Post by golf_delta_echo » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:07 pm

precautionary landing??

that would be a good reason to land i suppose
might try that one in future..???

most people enjoy helicopter landings anyway
except for the odd moaner

however i did see one helicopter landing at one end of a field
with sheep at the other end, would think the farmer would not like that
in the slightest!!!

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Post by hugoj_air » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:54 am

Now THAT must have been a precautionary landing. Because no
pilot would land in the same field containing animals running free :twisted: :wink: :wink:

Hugo.

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Post by EIDEL » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:48 pm

:roll: Perhaps the ould sheep would start nibbling bits off the tail rotor 8)

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Post by Kal » Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:41 pm

hugoj_air wrote:

Kal, did you note the registration's of the 16. Also what day and
time did you see them?



It was on the Saturday, I think it was in the morning if I remember correctly. I could probably rattle off about 8 of the registrations, but there are definately a few I cant remember like Finlay's Squirrel, McRae's yoke (cant remember the type), the R22, and a couple of the R44's. There were about 12 in Kelly's on Friday evening, and a similar number on Sunday. Some spectacle. I may have taken a few photos on approach to Kelly's, not sure though.

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Post by Kal » Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:43 pm

Oh yea there were about 4 at one stage parked beside the Milford Inn also

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Post by hugoj_air » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:18 pm

Hi Kal,

Thanks for the day and times. Maybe next year I'll try to get there
around those times.
There were five at the Milford Inn on Sat 1pm. It was me who saw
them. I nearly went of the road with shock. And my camera was at
home.

Hugo.

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Post by Kal » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:44 am

Next year probably wont be the same. I think this year was the last time we'll see that many helicopters at a rally where they are not controlled. Its not overly dangerous, because the majority of pilots speak to eachother on a common frequency (I say majority because there were a couple who blatently ignored every other heli), but there is an increased risk. WRC rounds have pilot briefings, designated landing sites, restricted areas etc etc, but that costs money.

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Post by hugoj_air » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:57 pm

Kal you said:

Next year probably wont be the same.


Dont be too sure we do our own thing up here.

pilot briefings, designated landing sites, restricted areas etc etc, but that costs money.


Exactly and would take all the fun out of it, but as I said before unless
there is an incident, it will carry on just the same.

Hugo.

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Post by mini » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:00 am

The rally organisers do not get involved in air ops, so any pilots briefing is not their baby. WRC events may be different but certainly RIAC national events are not involved in aircraft controlling, they have their hands full with what's happening on the ground...

Helo's were "banned" from rallies a few years ago following an incident on the Circuit of Ireland where a competitor struck a kid on a stage, the kid later stated that he didn't hear the car coming because of the noise of the helicoptor. Not sure who "banned" them or how it was enforced...

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