PTC Florida shut down by FIT

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PTC Florida shut down by FIT

Post by skycowboys » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:27 am

Its on rte news now
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PTC response

Post by skycowboys » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:49 am

Dear Students:



PTC, FIT and the IAA have been in discussion in relation to the training stoppage at PTC Florida. Progress is being made on a solution that will resolve the issues involved and allow training to recommence. The IAA has sent a senior manager to meet with all parties to assess the situation and to explore how the training of all cadets can be completed to the satisfaction of all concerned. All efforts will be made to make this a smooth transition so that all PTC students are minimally impacted. Additional information will be provided at the beginning of next week as this transfer process unfolds. Thank you for your continued patience.



Sincerely,



Dr. Ken Stackpoole

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

Post by skycowboys » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:50 am

First of all, on behalf of PTC, I want to sincerely apologise for the disruption that is being caused to your flight training.

PTC has found it necessary to challenge FIT in relation to their failure to deliver training in accordance with the training contract between PTC and FIT. FIT have failed over a protracted period to deliver training on schedule and in accordance with our contract. We have been actively involved in trying to resolve this issue for several months. We have had no option other than to bring this issue to a head. Unfortunately, the response from FIT has been to terminate all training and issue notice of cancellation of the contract.

PTC is in active negotiations with an alternative provider and we have informed FIT that this is our intention. We are unable to provide any further information at this time as these negotiations are delicate and protracted.

Please bear with us as we work towards bringing about a solution to these difficulties. We will keep everybody informed as the situation develops.




28th JUNE

Dear Staff & Students,

Thank you all for your patience and understanding at this time. We are continuing to work towards a solution to these difficulties and will ensure that you are updated as the situation develops. The statement issued here on June 27th will provide you with the current information.

We have confirmed from FIT that all visas are current and there is no immediate plan to change this status. Once further information is available we will update you all.

I appreciate your patience and understanding at this time.

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Post by JFH » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:52 am

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

Post by PTCSTUDENT123 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:07 pm

295 is a hell of a lot better than the €89000 I paid and have only gotten half of the course done and its looking like I wont be getting my money back if they go under

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

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Post by JFH » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:36 pm

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

Post by PTCSTUDENT123 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:38 pm

this is straight from PPRUNE an aviation forum

You have your facts wrong. PTC owes FIT a lot of money. We were told this by FIT with the IAApresent. The IAA did not deny thatstatement. Today PTC Florida isbankrupt, let go of all its employees, and closed its doors for ever. Most likely PTC Ireland will go down the samepath shortly. The only question is willthe students get back all the money they paid PTC? I doubt it. Will FIT ever get paid? I doubt it. A lot of people were seriously screwed over byPTC. It’s a shame.

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

Post by Bob » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:50 pm

Not looking good, hopefully these guys get there money back, but unfortunately they broke the cardinal rule and gave money upfront.

It's so easy to get sucked in by the flying school ********. These guys are great at giving a marketing pitch, but I guess they have to be if they are going to get a high 5 figure or even 6 figure sum out of people.
Personally, I always thought if a school is doing the X amount of pilots needed.. type sales pitch and not the our school is value for money because.. type sales pitch they're not for me. They're hardly going to tell you that the industry has been going down hill for the last 11ish years with no sign of improvement are they?

JFH that 295euro you spent is worthless even if the school doesn't go bust. Was a bull sh*t test with a 100% pass rate ever going to stop you? Even if you did happen to be the first person to ever fail it.

For anyone looking at learning to fly, get a PPL at your local flying club then investigate if you want to go for a commercial license. You'll also figure out fairly quick from reading the Trevor Thom books and a your first couple of flying lessons if you've the aptitude for flying.
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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

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Re: PTC Florida shut down by FIT

Post by tom in weston » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:23 pm

[b]Looks / sounds like PTC were "pulling the wool"[/b]

The Irish Aviation Authority has suspended flight-training approval for the Waterford-based Pilot Training Centre of Ireland (PTC) after 80 trainee Irish pilots were told their course is being halted.

The IAA sought evidence from PTC today that they were financially sound. PTC could not give this assurance.

The trainee pilots were told 10 days ago by the Florida Institute of Technology Aviation (FIT) that they were not allowed into the air again, the Irish Examiner's Claire O'Sullivan reports.

FIT provides the training courses in association with the PTC. The students pay their €83,000 in fees upfront to PTC, who pass on the agreed rates to FIT.

They have been told FIT's contract with the training centre was terminated.

PTC has tried to lay the blame for the fiasco at the door of FIT, saying the termination of the course follows "a lengthy period of negotiation during which PTC attempted to have FIT deliver on training contracts in a timely and professional manner".

They say the problems between both sides were created by the "non-delivery of services by FIT".

The Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) regulates, approves and oversees flight training organisations here. In a statement this evening, the IAA said it was informed on June 26 that FIT were ceasing all training activities in Florida for PTC due to a commercial dispute concerning payments.

The IAA sent a senior inspector to establish the training situation and he has now met the students.

'Students the priority'

At a meeting today with PTC, the IAA said it "sought evidence and assurances that sufficient funding is available to continue operations in Waterford, given that the Florida operations have ceased.

"PTCW informed the IAA that they were investigating restructuring options but that this process would take 10 days to complete."

The IAA has now suspended the flight training approval for PTCW.

"The IAA will re-engage with any proposals emerging from this process but in the interim training in Waterford is suspended," it said in tonight's statement.

"The students at the centre of this and their families are a primary concern for us," said Kevin Humphreys, director of safety regulation in the IAA.

"As soon as we became aware that there was an issue, we moved straight away to assess what solutions we could find that would allow the students to bank the training credits they have already achieved in Florida, and to allow them to finish their training.

"We are still working on both of these issues but it looks like students may well now be facing a loss which PTCW informed us today that they will endeavour to mitigate as part of the restructuring process."

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