airbus wrote:i have heard a lot of strong opinions on PTC and most of them bad ones can anyone explain to me what is wrong with PTC
The problem with your question is that it is all subjective and different people will have different experience with different schools and comment likewise. People who have had bad expericnce tend to complain more than those who dont - that said there doesnt tend to be smoke without fire.
All I can suggest is that you visit all three schools and see which one "fits" - and don't be afraid to ask the really hard questions either - you're going to be spending a lot of money with which ever one you choose so you are better of doing a bit of homework at the start.
airbus wrote:are the NFC just as good as the others
Yes - and they are only as good as the person trying to be a pilot. The one advantage NFC, and AFC for that, have is you pay as you go - no need to go tens of thousands of Euro in the red before you even start.
airbus wrote:i kind of get the vibe that doing the PPL with NFC is the most you should deal with them if down the line you want to work for an airline.
Flying Schools don't get peole jobs with airlines - any flying school that says they do are lying. At the end of the day you will get the same piece of paper going through any of the Irish Flyings schools - a modular fATPL - the person who actually gets the job is you.
airbus wrote:i mean are they capabile of training a person as fast and as good as the others. PLEASE ADVISE
Yes - and they have the same problems as the others as well - mainly the Irish weather.
I spent 6 weeks in PTC doing my Multi IR Conversion and had absolutely no problems with them. Never messed about with the schedule, aircraft in great condition and top class instructors.
Like mentioned earlier with any flight school you go to it depends on the student and what you put in is what you get out. Doesnt matter if its PTC/NFC/AFT if you dont put in the effort you wont get the rewards.
Happy flying whoever you choose!
Anyone that did hour building there was happy too, again lots of available planes and no restrictions on destinations(unlike Flight Safety!)
Plus Melbourne has way more chicks in it than Vero Beach so its win win!
just my two cents.............
Oxford in the uk is a proper integrated course with proper groundschool instructors (ex airline captains with thousands of hours), whereas the ground instructors at ptc are all 200 hour cpl holders, including the chief ground instructor - what a joke. All the flying instructors at ptc, while some of them are good, are mostly all general aviation pilots with no airline experience.
Oxford gets its graduates interviews with airlines after graduating, and they publish on their website which airlines their students end up at. PTC dont do this because most of the students unfortunatly havent found a job. Oxford is cheaper than ptc now aswell, so anyone choosing to go to ptc at this time is really making a bad decision.
Skull PTC do not get you an interview and
neither do Oxford or any other school and dont let anyone fool you.
some schools do have better reputations but none send you for interviews in recent years..its a dogfight for jobs and airlines dont need schools recommending people.
when a school says they are connected to an airline it usually means and air line rep pops in for tea and a chat every 12 months...
P.S ask oxford whens last time some of those companies shown asked for people...years ago!!
and PTC students HAVE got jobs recently including Ryanair.
so if your going to dish a school or comment get facts before you do.
A handful of PTC students getting in to Ryanair on their own initiative does not make up for the 90% of graduates from there that dont get jobs.
i am in an integrated school at the moment...and yes letters of recommendation are given and sent...
they are not worth the paper they are written on in this econmic climate...
one of the courses left here around july..9 people left the 3 without the recommendation and school help are the first 3 to get an airline job.
yes you are right in saying schools help pays off when the bigger companies need cadets fast and ring up and ask can you have 6 guys for interview in 2 weeks!!!those days are gone for the next few years!!
I do also agree that PTC is a ridculous price for a modular course...but dont say they are less of a pilot or dont get jobs!
PTC are the highest charging FTO in europe, and they offer a second rate modular course for 98 thousand euros which does NOT include an MCC unlike Oxford - who also offer their students free sim sessions in their 737-400 sim every few months after graduation to maintain their flying skills and to be ready for an interview should they get one.
Also PTC are total bullshitters when it comes to employment opportunites, they have this written on their website:
"Guaranteed interviews with major airline recruiters
Suitably qualified students of PTC are guaranteed an interview with an airline following graduation."
If thats not false advertising i dont know what is.
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