[JoeMc]

Hi all

Is there anybody here doing or have done their training out of St Angelo's.
How are you/did you find it. I'm very happy with the facilities and going on other peoples experience i think im blessed with a huge tarmac runway and only club traffic.

[Rallyeflyer]

Enniskillen is a fine facility, except for one big problem.
It is full of training eggwisks, they burn up the circuit, have little respect for anything else and the consensus is that they are as ignorant as a pig.
If you want to train fixed-wing then go elsewhere.

[willo]

I've flown into Enniskillen a few times, and never had an issue with helis.

ATC are very helpful and not overly pernickity, clubs are friendly & facilties are good.

[JoeMc]

Took me a minute to figure out what an eggwhisk was, but your right there is a fair amount of them around the place alright. what annoys me about them is that they practice hover manoeuvres on the grass verges at the edge of the runway. I find this very intimidating on take off/landing

Still though, I dont think its enough to put me off going to enniskillen, i find everything else satisfactory, (everything except the weather that is).

[tu154]

Enniskillen is a fine facility, except for one big problem.
It is full of training eggwisks, they burn up the circuit, have little respect for anything else and the consensus is that they are as ignorant as a pig.
If you want to train fixed-wing then go elsewhere.

Absolute bollox.
The heli school is run by a very professional outfit who fly the heli circuit rigorously, and who are perfectly entitled to do so. After all they contribute a large amount of business to the airfield, part of which enables the airfield to exist. It's not so long ago that it was closed!

They are also a very reasonable bunch, and if there were any problems, would be very willing to listen to any issues that there are and work them out, the airport management/atc are the same.
The internet is full of people who take their half arsed opinions (or hidden agendas) and vent them for all to see, giving the impression that there is a problem, when in fact it is an opinion.

As for hover training beside the runway, those are designated hover training areas, and there is plenty of clearance between them and the runway.

In my opinion, Enniskillen is the best training facility on the island of Ireland, for fixed wing and heli!

[JoeMc]

Tu154

I didnt' mean to offend, I may have misrepresented myself slightly. Im delighted with enniskillen and i never once had any problem with the heli's. and i agree 100% with your financial comment in that they certianly are needed to keep the airport alive.

All I ment with my comment was that because i'm such a low hour pilot i just be nervous taking off with the heli's beside me (which is my problem).

so apologies for any misunderstanding. [/quote]

[tu154]

JoeMc, no apology required. It's completely understandable that a heli hovering beside the runway might add an additional stress factor when you are trying to learn. Just for your peace of mind, the helis either operate using the runway, or well away from it. If they decide to use it they will generally call 'checking the approach' and then carry out the manouvre. Otherwise they treat it as a live runway and remain clear.

[Bladecrack]

Well said 154, why is it a lot of FW pilots seem to have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to sharing airspace with helicopters? As a helicopter pilot who also has a FW licence I don't have any predjudice towards the majority of FW pilots. Must be a jelousy thing when they see a helicopter!!

BC

[michael747]

Must be a jelousy thing when they see a helicopter!!

Well when your flying a 1970's C172 and a brand new AW139 pulls up aside you, Who wouldn't be jealous??? Especially when your paying to fly, and most likely the heli pilot is being paid to do so.....

I've yet to visit Enniskillen

[JoeMc]

Here here Michael 747. im happy in my little 80hp fixed wing sipping 5gph, and with a rate of climb of 1000ft per hour!!!

Who would want a, say a miserable augsta 109 power or a bell 430, that could thrust you through the sky at 200kph and be able to land in your back garden in time for tea after skipping accross to france for lunch. imagine the hit on your wallet!!! thats no fun at all