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OBA Florida

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:05 pm
by ei6265
Hey guys,

I know everyone is probably sick to their teeth answering questions on OBA, but Im really considering going over to get my PPL over and done with. Some questions though:

- Id be looking to go over during the summer (June/July/August/September). Is it risky weather-wise with Hurricane season etc or would it be fine? Obviously Id leave a few extra days incase training was delayed. In the event theres a storm or whatever and conditions are unflyable, do you just do Groundschool instead?

- In your experience, whats the TOTAL price you end up paying for your PPL? This includes Flights, Insurance, Medicals, Visas, PPL issuing etc. I see the website states the costs and whats not included, but theres no better honest answer than students who have done it before.

- Is it possible to train on the C150 instead of the Libertys? If so, is there any additional discount/extra hours or is it the same?

- Whats the general atmosphere like at OBA? I hear its just get the business done, get what you pay for attitude.

- Any general tips if I am going to OBA?



Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:49 pm
by Lambada Crazy

Ive been to OBA last summer and going back again this summer!!
I must say the weather is excelent in june/july and gets rather bad in mid august!! The cessna 150 is the same price as Liberty! and th liberty is a great aircraft to fly, in every situation!, I booked the warrior and when i got there and i saw the liberty i transfered, and there was no problem i was refunded the money the same day i transfered. Here are the costs;

PPL liberty/c150 ?6240
Flights Return ?812
Living expenses; ?1000
CAA Licence issue fee ?400
Travel Insurance; ?140
Aircraft Insuranec: ?120 RECOMENDED

Total: ?8712

Thats not bad considering that is everything included, i havent included deposits which you will get back provided you dont damage their house or headset.

When the weather is bad, you have a choice, you can go back to the house and study, you can stay at the school (which is likely because the rain will be about 5" off the ground :) or you could call a taxi and spend the day in daytona or walmart or Volusia Mall
There is only 4 Ground School classes which include, "Meteorology", "Aircraft general", "Flight Performance and Planning" and "Navigation"

All the rest of the studying will be done by yourself with their powerpoint presentations which are very good.

You have 3 attempts at passing all 7 exams, exams can be done 7 days a week by asking the flight operation supervisor, which is Ken (the examiner) or bill (multi instructor) or on the weekend when theyre not around it will be any instructor.
If you fail an exam more than three times you MUST resit the exam at London Gatwick which will make a big interuption to your training if that happens.

Let about 4-5 weeks to get the ppl complete, you will be stressed out with the "21" days that they recomend.

The best advice about flights it to fly Shannon - Atlanta - Daytona with Delta air lines, it cost me this summer 812euro and its around 7 miles from the house.

Any more questions pm me!!


Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:07 pm
by mike romeo

HAve OBA stopped the Airport pick-up policy?

I was there in June 06 and flew into Orlando with Virgin for E500. Jackie was there to pick me up outside the terminal.

Worth noting that Aer Lingus fly direct to Orlando now. that should be around E500 also.

Also, you mention E1000 for accomodation. Do OBA not provide 21nights accom with the package. after that it was $29 per night if I remember correctly.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:21 pm
by Lambada Crazy
I cant remember saying ?1000 for accomidation, thats living expenses. you know, food drink taxis etc.

Sorry for the mix up,

Yeah the do provide airport pick up service,
But flying into daytona makes it easier, and most of the people that flew orlando, where picked up at orlando but were dropped at a bus station to get back to orlando.

so thats why im suggesting Daytona.
and i beleive orlando is about an hour and a half drive, daytona is about 5 minutes.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:26 pm
by Lambada Crazy
was just looking into Aer Lingus,


Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:40 pm
by mike romeo

I stand corrected on both counts.

those fares are terrible! low cost my a***!

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:01 pm
by ei6265
Thanks for the info Lambada, much appreciated.

Had a look at the EIN fares alright - no chance for that price. Looks like theyre just trying to screw families over going to Disneyland etc. They might just be reviewing fares though and putting them at max until they decide what the average is. I checked BA, Virgin and Delta with connections and they were all a lot cheaper than that.

Did you stay for 4 or 5 weeks? I know 21 days isnt enough, but didnt realise it could drag into 4/5 weeks! :?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:35 pm
by mike romeo
ei6265 wrote:Did you stay for 4 or 5 weeks? I know 21 days isnt enough, but didnt realise it could drag into 4/5 weeks! :?

I went for 4 weeks (28 days) and needed every one of them. Ihad hoped to get the PPL in about 24-25 days and then have a bit of a holiday for a 3 days but I lost some time due to weather.

I would recommend giving yourself enough time to complete the training in comfort. I remember one english student when I was there tried to get the PPL in 17 days...he ran out of time and went back over that August as far as I know. Got very expensive for him

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:57 pm
by Lambada Crazy
mike romeo what a/c did you fly when you were there? EINs flights are a complete rip off, i didnt even know they did direct untill you pointed it out to me, if it had of been cheaper i would of been kicking myself lol :)

I also needed around 4 and a half weeks, but i stayed the extra few and saw a few places. I will admit i was a bit slow on the exams and thats what kept me, It was hard trying to plan X country flights and study for exams, so the best advice is probably to get the exams done as quickly as possible.
I was kinda knervous going over because i didnt know what to expect, but it all worked out great, I bought a bike from Walmart for 50$ and it was the best purchase over there, because its hot and you dont want to be walking that road, it can be in the mid 40-50degrees which is hot.

What dates are you planning to head over? im going on the 7th of july.


Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:09 pm
by mike romeo
I did the PPL in the 150's, didn't bother with the Liberty cos the first ones were only being delivered the week i started and also I wouldn't get the chance to fly anything like it back home avoinics-wise.

Ya to be honest I made the original comment without checkin the web cos i've seen them advertised for 220e/w before....obviously in a sale! Its a disgrace to think that Legacy carriers like Virgin and BA can offer a slightly longer flight for half that price!

oh and EI only resumed flights to MCO in October 07, they flew there for a while on 2005 I think but pulled out of the route due to problems with the unions as far as I know

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:21 pm
by dhblewis

Been looking loadsa at PPl in america. Made a table of the costs.

Any questions ask away!

Cost of Course $7,525.00 $8,804.00 $5,750.00
Class 3 FAA Medical $0.00 $0.00 $85.00
Written exams cost $0.00 $0.00 $90.00
Skill Exam Costs $0.00 $0.00 $300.00
Headset $336.00 $336.00 $336.00
Visa $0.00 $0.00 $120.00
Radio Telephony License $0.00 $0.00 $300.00
Unlimited Ground School $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Study Pack $265.00 $0.00 $0.00
Loan of map etc. $50.00 $0.00 $50.00
Finger printing $10.00 $0.00 $10.00
Accommodation $1,751.00 $878.00 $1,533.33
Fuel Surcharge $0.00 $0.00 $287.50
Credit Card Surcharge $0.00 $0.00 $476.50
Flights $857.00 $857.00 $857.00
CPR5 $0.00 $0.00 $65.00
Insurance $131.00 $131.00 $131.00
Us Embassy Fee $125.00 $125.00 $125.00
Accommodation cleaning $0.00 $35.00 $0.00
Additional 10 dual $1,440.00 $0.00 $1,850.00
Bag $0.00 $0.00 $80.00
Other* $50.00 $0.00 $50.00
Food $450.00 $500.00 $300.00
Other expense $1,000.00 $1,000.00 $1,000.00
Landing Fees $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
Night Rating $0.00 $700.00

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:55 pm
by Lambada Crazy

you are incorrect in a lot of your costs about OBA,

Oba do not charge 336 dollars for a headset, they provide a headset FREE and you just pay them a deposit which you get back upon return.

They do not charge 878 dollars for accomidation,
there is no US embassy fee, that fee is included in the PPL package.

OBA do not charge 700USD for a night rating,
according to LASORS (Licencing Administration Standardisation Operating Requirments Safety) it specifically states
"Training for a Night Qualification (Aeroplanes) may be completed and included within the 45 hours total flight time required for the JAR-FCL PPL(A), providing the minimum requirments have been met."

Also, in EFTs price they do not include;

Licence issue fees payable to the CAA (300 euro)
Car hire or transportation expenses (see charges) (60 euro)
Accommodation charges (see charges) (700euro)
Pickup from your arrival airport (see charges) (70euro)
Airline fares for transport to the USA (812euro)
Visa issue costs (130 euro)
Flight test fees (300 euro)

3% Credit card surcharge
and probably a heap of other things that are also not included,

with OBA you are getting an "all inclusive price" there is nothing left out, believe me, i have a friend that went to EFT and she thought the quality of training was very poor.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:29 pm
by dhblewis

Thank for the comment however The costs were for me, so hence, I want my own headset as you can get in total 200 infections from rented ones.

The accomodation is for 24 days of Single room Supplement.

In reagrd t the Us embassy fee, I have been told by oba, that I do in fact have to pay for the interview.

Yes the Night rating wasmy mistake, was meant to be an extra $0.00 as it is free and eft charge $700.

In regard to eft.

Licence issue fees payable to the CAA (300 euro)
Transport ( our accomodation is walking distance.)
Accommodation charges (see charges) (700euro) (accomodation is for road runner resort as opposed to the eft accomodation)
Pickup from your arrival airport (see charges) (70euro) (we have car)
Airline fares for transport to the USA (812euro) Is listed at $857 as thats what i was charged.
Visa issue costs (130 euro) ( stated at $120)
Flight test fees (300 euro)(Stated at $300 acctual cost according to eft)

So none of my costs were wrong just they weremy costs :)!!


Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:59 pm
by Lambada Crazy
the headset i was given by OBA were brand new in a box sealed,
the 130 deposit that i paid was given back to me,
what most students done was kept the headset and lost the deposit,
but they got a good headset for 130
I bought a new david clarke headset for 200euro off OBA, great headset!

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:01 pm
by dhblewis
Well that changes everything! Thanks for the tip! By the way how long in advance would you need to book? And would 24 days be ok, if you had your medical and fingerprints done before you got there?