IAA ATPL's with a CAA PPL?

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IAA ATPL's with a CAA PPL?

Post by AndyMax » Mon May 17, 2004 5:46 pm

I have a UK PPL. This is my Question...


If I do my ATPL's here in Ireland under the IAA will the exams be accepted when I go on to do my UK CPL/ME/IR etc etc?

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Post by tu154 » Tue May 18, 2004 12:22 pm

As I understand it, both the ATPL and flying component must be completed in the same state. Once you have your frozen atpl and commercial flying course done and are qualified, you can do subsequent ratings, ME/IR, in another JAR state. But the first two have to be in the same.
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Post by AndyMax » Tue May 18, 2004 12:46 pm

thanks for the reply. I had a feeling that was the case.
Guess I have to go and do them with Bristol or Oxford and not Pan Aviation or Weston

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Post by tu154 » Wed May 19, 2004 3:54 am

In the same boat myself. Talked to Bristol yesterday. Taking the class 1 in a couple of weeks then kicking off all going well.

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Post by pressman » Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:35 pm

Guys ,

ATPL theory is now acceptable across all member states , so the UK CAA will accept the Irish ATPL exam results ,

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Post by pensive » Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:28 pm

Don't know where you got that from Pressman. All exams and CPL training must be done in one JAR state so no cross-border stuff. This is still the way, just ask Bernie Waddington, head of CAA licensing. Even CAA are now limiting non UK JAR IR's and the like being imported, dunno why. :?
Wise mans move is to do as much in UK as possible. Avoiding IAA and limitations on places to train. Remember if a school goes bust here its very restricted as to where your options lie. Bristol GS continually have top results, Alex, Bas and all the crew are top notch. Hope this helps all prospective professionals! :wink:

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Post by pressman » Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:47 pm

Read the UK CAA Lasors , and speak to simon white , head of JAA policy in the UK , I'm doing my cpl in the uk and the theory in another country .
Copied straight from UK LASORS and also confirmed .

Important
Note:
An applicant shall demonstrate
the satisfactory completion of all
requirements for licence issue to
the Authority of the ?State of
licence issue. *In circumstances
agreed by both Authorities, an
applicant who has commenced
training under the responsibility
of one Authority may be
permitted to complete the
requirements under the
responsibility of the other
Authority. The agreement shall
allow for:
1 theoretical knowledge training
and examinations (except PPL
examinations)
2 medical examination and
assessment
3 flight training and testing
The Authorities shall agree the
?State of licence issue?.
Further ratings may be obtained
under JAR-FCL requirements in
any JAA Member State and will
be entered into the licence by the
State of licence issue. For
administrative convenience, e.g.
revalidation, the licence holder
may subsequently transfer a
licence issued by the State of
licence issue to another JAA
Member State provided that
employment or normal residency
is established in that State. That
State would thereafter become
the State of licence issue and
would assume the responsibility
for licence issue. An applicant
shall hold only one JAR-FCL
licence for each category of
aircraft and only one medical
certificate at any time. *Prior to
commencement of training
applicants should contact the
intended ?State of licence issue? to
confirm that such an agreement is
acceptable to both Authori

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Post by ceatach » Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:20 pm

hmm.I thought both theory and cpl were to be done in same state too. so, its ok to mix but only in agreement with both authorities? Under what circumstances will they agree I wonder.

also andy, no point in you goin commercial until you get rid of that tatoo.....

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Post by pressman » Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:26 pm

it doesn't have to be extenuating circumstances , I'm doing all the theory in belgium where my wife is . I'm doing a UK CPL in the US , so i will be issued a UK CPL /ME then i am doing the IR in Belgium . The UK then accept other JAA countries ATPL , I also know of a dutch guy doing the same thing with the dutch ATPL .Remember though you need a UK medical for them to issue the initial CPL issue .
So in actual fact what you can do is the ATPL at home in ireland and the flying in a UK registered school in the US on a UK medical . A word of advice to anybody whose interested in this is that you will hear various views on subjects like this on noticeboards , the best thing to do is to pick up the phone and call the CAA concerned .

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Post by tu154 » Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:57 am

IAA class 1 medical is good with the CAA. Did mine recently on this basis. There's some kind of conversion process to go though, but it's doable.

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Post by AndyMax » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:44 am

ceatach wrote:also andy, no point in you goin commercial until you get rid of that tatoo.....



Im not getting rid of my tatoo young man, If an airline wont hire me cause I have a tatoo then f^&K them...Its 2004 after all, people I think have grown up a bit

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Post by Clrd2Land » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:33 pm

If your tatoo is in a place which is covered by clothes, then you shouldn't have any problem.

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Post by ceatach » Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:33 pm

Its on his forehead and says 'born to lose'

actually its the lower arm and not covered by any short
sleeved shirt. I believe airlines are very picky Andy.

talk to ya......

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Post by Clrd2Land » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:45 pm

[quote="ceatach"]I believe airlines are very picky Andy.[quote]

True that. Why would they pick someone who has a tatoo showing when they can get someone equally qualified with no tatoo. It's hard enough to get a job these days.

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Post by AndyMax » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:44 pm

Clrd2Land wrote:
True that. Why would they pick someone who has a tatoo showing when they can get someone equally qualified with no tatoo. It's hard enough to get a job these days.


thats like saying why would they hire a black person when they have an equally qualified white person!

Its totally stupid and biased


Long sleeved shirt it is LOL

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