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Post by Lambada Crazy » Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:21 am

Didnt the present 1433m Runway only go down a few years ago?? sometime in the 1990s? Might be celebrating 25 years but the present runway isnt that old. historical avi was refering to the present runway i presume.
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Post by Lambada Crazy » Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:39 am

Maybe im wrong, i didnt think Waterford Airport came with the "big bang" :D :D :D :D and as for my christmas card?? :( Maybe the grant didnt come yet for the Christmas Cards! :D
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Post by Dogbiscuit » Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:49 am

Waterford opened in Dec 1981 with 1200m of runway, extended sometime in the 1990's to 1433m, same runway just a little bit at each end.

So the present runway is that old, its just the 233m extra isn't.

Suppose Lambada you were still in Pampers when all this was going on !!

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Post by Lambada Crazy » Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:22 pm

Runway was completly resurfaced with the extra bits on each end, and when this happened "as i think it only happened in the last 5-10 years, i would of been about 10-12 years old!!

Apologies ladjet, got the christmas card yesterday, very nice with all the different pics going back through the years.
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Post by Flyer1 » Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:46 pm

Yeah, thats about right Lambada, it would have been 6 ish years ago the runway was re-surfaced and if my mind serve's me correctly it was made slightly longer aswell. Now, why do we need a bigger runway ? Isn't that why man invented brakes :D

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Post by LadJet » Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:36 pm

The extensions came in 1992/3 ish as I remember they were something to do with performance issues with Manx Airlines Jetstream 41's

The runway got a complete resurface in 1998.

The government funding should be announced in the next two weeks. Hopefully a Jet runway is no the way ?

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Post by Flyer1 » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:28 pm

It's all very well having a jet runway, but does the airport itself have the facilities to handle 189 people from a 738 coming through in one burst ? I know there have been times when there have been 2 or 3 schelduled Arann's in at a go, but turn that into 2 or 3 738's and the like and see what happens. Hopefully the government will give the airport a nice big grant.

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Post by Dutch Roll » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:41 pm

grants usually go to dub or shannon
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Post by Flyer1 » Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:39 pm

Sadly thats true. Dublin has enough. The place is crowded enough without building on to it. The government need to realise that there are other parts of Ireland other than Dublin.

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Post by LadJet » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:59 am

Flyer1 wrote:It's all very well having a jet runway, but does the airport itself have the facilities to handle 189 people from a 738 coming through in one burst ? I know there have been times when there have been 2 or 3 schelduled Arann's in at a go, but turn that into 2 or 3 738's and the like and see what happens. Hopefully the government will give the airport a nice big grant.


The terminal at Waterford is no smaller that Kerry and they have no problems with the 738's and im sure the could always use the club !

The funding is about 60 million for allocation to regional airports only over the next 5 years.

Interesting to see where it goes.

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Post by Flyer1 » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:03 pm

There's always that option Ladjet :wink:

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Post by dowlingm » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:16 pm

dutch, flyer1 - if DUB/SNN get all the dosh what's this then?
ec.europa.eu/community_law/state_aids/transports-2006/n353-06.pdf

EUR65,500,000 of taxpayers money to subvent the Capital programmes of a bunch of airports that between them only have 1.3m pax. That doesn't include PSO money which goes to the airlines.

I'm not saying they should get the money but don't say things that aren't true, and if these communities want their airports they should pony up some dosh too.

Traffic numbers
Dublin ?????????? 18,451,000
Cork ?????????? 2,730,000
Shannon ?????????? 3,302,000

Donegal (Border region) ?????????? 47,776
Sligo (Border region) ?????????? 39,593
Knock-(West region) ?????????? 530,084
Galway (West region) ?????????? 253,309
Kerry (South West region) ?????????. 382,678
Waterford-(South East region) ????????.. 74,357

The case for subventing airports like Kerry and Knock is getting thin especially in Kerry's case given the improvements to the rail service over the last few years - Tralee-Dublin will be 8x weekday in the 2007 schedule not counting the "overnight" - who would spend the night in Mallow station to pick up the early Dublin? Sounds worse than the night I once spent in Stansted!

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Post by OW wright » Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:22 pm

dowlingm wrote:
EUR65,500,000 of taxpayers money..........

I'm not saying they should get the money............................................... if these communities want their airports they should pony up some dosh too.

Donegal (Border region) ?????????? 47,776
Sligo (Border region) ?????????? 39,593
Knock-(West region) ?????????? 530,084
Galway (West region) ?????????? 253,309
Kerry (South West region) ?????????. 382,678
Waterford-(South East region) ????????.. 74,357



eh, do people outside of Dublin, Cork and Shannon not pay tax as well ?

i think most tourists would rather fly to their holiday destination rather than flying to an airport over a hundred miles away and then have to get a train or bus to get were there going.

if your destination is Kerry or Donegal would you not prefer to fly direct instead of flying into Dublin or Cork, kind of defeats the purpose of flying in the first place.
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Post by Flyer1 » Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:22 pm

They can't be expecting huge traffic numbers if they don't give a little. Pay peanuts you get monkeys.

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Post by Lofty » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:26 am

Rumour has it they are far from paying peanuts at WTD :wink: I think the next few years will see huge expansion and its about time too and great to see.

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