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Air Force 1 stopover in shannon

Post by Polar Tiger » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:17 pm

I just heard that Air Force 1 will be making a fuel stop at shannon tomorrow morning, dont know the exact time however. Bush is on his way to india. Any more info would be appreciated!

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Post by OW wright » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:35 pm

i heard on the 1 o'clock news that air force one is due to make a fuel stop at 01:30 tomorrow morning (wed 1st March)

i'm nearly sure that its possible for air force one to refuel in flight
why don't they refuel over england with a fuel tanker from one of the american air force bases in england?

maybe this is only used in emergency situations i.e. 9/11

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Post by Charlie Hotel Mike » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:12 pm

There's a TRA of 30nm radius around shannon for tonight, check notams for full info."UNAUTHORISED PENETRATION MAY RESULT IN
INTERCEPTION BY DEFENCE FORCES"

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Post by ei6265 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:41 pm

Hi CHM,

Where did you get that NOTAM? From the internet or elsewhere? I've been looking for a decent website with most recent NOTAMs free of charge.. any helpers?

Wouldn't mind seeing the bird land, if I was living down that neck of the woods. :(

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Post by EIWAT » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:44 pm

Try notam.com seems to be upto date
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Post by mark » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:11 pm

Hi ei6265,

You can get the NOTAMs from this site. Go to http://flyinginirelandmagazine.com/notams.php and type in 'EISN' into the box. A list of all the NOTAMs for the Shannon FIR are listed and if you scroll down a bit you'll see this one:



A0348/06 - TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ACTIVATED. AREA CONTAINED WITHIN CIRCLE RAD 30NM 524207N 0085529W, SHANNON AIRPORT, GND TO FL 180. AREA RESTRICTED TO USE BY 1 SAR, STATE, SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL AIR TRANSPORT FLIGHTS DEPARTING AND ARRIVING LICENSED AD LOCATED WITHIN RETRICTED AREA EXCEPT, BETWEEN 15NM AND 30NM FROM CENTRE OF AREA - GA FLIGHT PERMITTED TO DEPART AND ARRIVE AD TO/FROM OUTSIDE AREA. 2 SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL AIR TRANSPORT FLIGHTS TRANSITING THE RESTRICTED AREA. FLIGHT PLAN, RTF AND TRANSPONDER REQUIRED FOR ALL FLIGHTS WITHIN AREA. ALL FLIGHTS MUST ESTABLISH 2 WAY CONTACT WITH ATCC SHANNON. ATC AUTHORISATION REQUIRED PRIOR TO ENTRY TO RESTRICTED AREA. UNAUTHORISED PENETRATION MAY RESULT IN INTERCEPTION BY DEFENCE FORCES FURTHER INFORMATION TEL SHANNON ATCC 353 61 471233 GND FL180 01 MAR 00:01 UNTIL 01 MAR 06:00
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Post by dowlingm » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:07 am

Interception??

With what???

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Post by mark » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:46 am

Dowlingm,

The following Air Corps aircraft were in Shannon yesterday, i'm assuming they were going to be doing the interceptions....

213 Eurocopter SA.316B Alouette III(2116) 302 Sq Irish Air Corps
256 Eurocopter EC.135T1(0149) Garda Air Support Unit
270 Eurocopter EC.135P2(0425) 301 Sq Irish Air Corps
260 Pilatus PC-9M(655) FTS, Irish Air Corps.
262 Pilatus PC-9M(657) FTS, Irish Air Corps.
264 Pilatus PC-9M(659) FTS, Irish Air Corps.
251 Gulfstream 4(1160) 102 Sq Irish Air Corps
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Post by ei6265 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:19 pm

mark wrote:Hi ei6265,

You can get the NOTAMs from this site. Go to http://flyinginirelandmagazine.com/notams.php and type in 'EISN' into the box. A list of all the NOTAMs for the Shannon FIR are listed and if you scroll down a bit you'll see this one:


Hi Mark,

Thanks - I actually checked that page first, only I put EINN in instead of EISN.. thought it may have been on the airport page :)

Thanks anyway!

Daryl

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Post by dowlingm » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:10 pm

Mark

was being a bit facetious really. That said, if we had kept the Canadian F-18s that landed a while back due to loss of tankering we would have had something that could actually to QRA/CAP :)

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Post by VNAV PTH » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:25 pm

The PC-9`s will spray you with high pressure Liffey water...one of the most dangerous substances known to man!! :lol: :lol:
Screw you guys.....I`m going home.......

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Post by Charlie Hotel Mike » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 pm

Id be interested to know how well the aircorp would cope in a 'real world' situation, can the PC-9's get up to jet speed? or is that why they had the gulfstream in shannon, can you imagine the gulfstream intercepting a suspect aircraft! and what would the gulfstream do if they didnt comply, it has no weapons..... :oops:

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Post by Lambada Crazy » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:41 pm

eject toilet water on them :P :P :P
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Post by Cosmic » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:38 pm

why don't they refuel over england with a fuel tanker from one of the american air force bases in england?


The aircraft is equipped with the gear to do it, and the Pilots practice it, but I think the idea is that its their if they HAVE to use it and they dont unless they have to, as its considered a higher risk activity. One recent example I can think of is when Bush went to vist the troops at thnaksgiving, last year was it? They refuelled on the way inflight so as to keep it top secret.
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Post by Dutch Roll » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:32 am

I heard after it took off from shannon the other night it returned 30mins later with a 'tech' problem?? any know,and hes back tonight,well in the earlier hours,maybe the tree huggers wont be there inforce due to the cold weather.
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