A friend is building the Seafire 1/48 kit and wants to finish it in Irish colours. He wanted to know did it operate using the wing folding when in Gormanstown. I couldnt help him as I dont know. Anyone help?
He also had some choice things to say about another Irish author mistakenly believed they could be folded. So it would be inaccurate to depict the Seafire with folded wings unless the model is depicting one after retirement.I have ten pages listing the Air Corps requirements to Vickers Armstrong. It actually states that the wing folding mechanism was to be pinned. The aircraft were extensively modified to Spitfire Vc standard, indeed many pilots recorded their flights in their log books as Spitfires. The Air Corps had no requirement for wing folding as there was ample hangar space for the 11 Seafires. What that picture that you refer to shows, is when they were withdrawn from service and stored at Baldonnel,
Now for your next controversy, the colour scheme. I always maintain it was light Slate Grey, BS639. Others differ.
The logic of it is also inescapable. They were naval aircraft. The Air Corps specified a light green/grey. What would be the logical colour to hand? Exactly!
I had a look at the grey pencils website some very nice stuff there, there is a Seafire profile shown and it has its wings folded which would suggest that the wings were folded when in service. Is the green shown the correct shade? sorry for all the questions, thanks guys.
This would be so much easier if only the Air Corps used standard camouflage schemes. Why they and the rest of the army had to paint everything from tanks to jeeps in that puce green colour is anybody's guess.
The Dromod cowling is, AFAIK, the top engine cowling of a TR9, so it is green.I thought Tony had clarified the actual shade and manufacturer's number of the green paint on the TR9s on Irish Airpics.I'm not sure at all what shade of grey the Seafires were. All I know for certain is that all this was done to death when 161 reappeared in Air Corps colours a few years ago and the first thing people did was moan about the shade! As for Army paint schemes, that's anybody's guess.Quite often, they got painted with what was on hand.Officially, they were meant to be Olive Drab, but there were many variantions of shade.If you ever see some of the recent-ish purchases of Transit vans and other light soft-skins, they have a very dark, almost muddy brown shade.
He has just sent me an e- mail with a page attached from a book The Irish Air Corps an Illustrated Guide, it shows a Seafire and it looks more grey than green nothing like the Grey Pencils one. It gets worse and beginning to be sorry I took this on. Anyways thanks again guys you have been a great help.
You won't be the first or the last. It's a bit of a minefield. Incidentally you can't rely on the colours in the illustrated guide to the Air Corps. There are some glaring mistakes particularly with some of the camouflage schemes. But the book itself is excellent. It's easy to get all worked up about the exact colours but they often vary and fade in service as Stovepipe pointed out. Besides who is to say your model is inaccurate because unless you have a sample of the paint like I had. It's hard to prove.It gets worse and beginning to be sorry I took this on.
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