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News: Irish permit aicraft flying to France

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Important info for operators of Irish amateur-built permit types:
The Director of Civil Aviation Safety in France has issued a decree allowing Irish amateur-built aircraft with a full Flight Permit to fly in France without having to get prior permission :D (the previous requirement for which involved paying a chunky fee). This is a decree dated 24 February 2013, see" onclick=";return false; of 7/3/13 at item 19.

You may note there is no time limit.

Many thanks are due to the IAA, which supported approaches last year to the French authority in a very positive manner. One trusts that the Irish equivalent Airworthiness Notice A.19 will be modified to accord to French permit types the same reciprocity that applies to UK ones; in that case the French decree may be extended to Irish factory-built permit types on a reciprocal basis.

Those Irish pilots who have paid for a French "laissez-passer" permission since 24 February 2013 are advised to now seek a refund of the fees paid.

Finally, in connection with France, big congratulations are due to John Brennan, whose SeaRey EI-SEA won second prize in the homebuilt section last weekend at the RSA fly-in at Vichy!!!

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Great to see a big Irish presence at Vichy especially from the Pat Gallagher Wing based at Sligo. Honoured to win silver medal for best kit built aircraft but the highlight of the weekend was the confirmation that Irish homebuilt permit aircraft are welcome to fly in France without further "red tape". It was inspiring to witness the support for our cause from the RSA and our UK friends at the LAA. Well done to Bryan & Peter in particular who are held in obvious high regard throughout France. The logs must be published ... The celebration lunches and dinners alone are legendary. The winter debriefs promise to be interesting and inspiring.

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well done/Bien fait! Goes to show, a little bit of patience/diplomacy and sweat goes a long way. The more barriers get knocked down, the better for all fliers.


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Rough Translation of the document here:

Post by hum »

Decrees, circulars
Decree of 24 February 2013 on the overflight of French territory
by amateur-built aircraft registered in Ireland
NOR: DEVA1305155A
Minister of Ecology, Sustainable Development and Energy,
Due to the Convention on International Civil Aviation, signed at Chicago on 7 December 1944, published by
Decree No. 47-974 of 31 May 1947, all the protocols that have changed;
Given the Transport Code, particularly Article L. 6211-1;
Given the code of civil aviation, including section D. 133-20;
Given the INT/S-11.1 recommendation of the European conference of civil aviation;
Having regard to Regulation Reference "Irish Aviation Authority (Airworthiness of Aircraft) Order 1996 (SI No. 324
of 1996) "in force in Ireland for the issuance of an airworthiness document aircraft built by
Art. First. - The amateur-built aircraft registered in Ireland and holders, under Regulation
mentioned above, an airworthiness document entitled "Flight Permit" are allowed to fly over French territory
without prior consent issued by the French airworthiness services.
Art. 2. - Are excluded from the provisions of this Order aircraft whose airworthiness document
includes the words "Permit to fly" or "Certificate of fitness for flight."
Art. 3. - The director of the Safety of Civil Aviation is responsible for the implementation of this Order, which
will be published in the Official Journal of the French Republic.
Dated February 24, 2013.
For the minister and delegation:
The Director of Safety
Civil Aviation,
F. Rousse

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