Beware of Volcanic Ash

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Jim » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:07 am

We have been overwhelmed by queries from mainly GA pilots, who want to know if they can fly under present VAAS conditions!

Despite the publication by IAA (Which is maybe a misunderstanding)at
http://www.iaa.ie/index.jsp?p=93&n=96&a=864
And
http://www.iaa.ie/index.jsp?p=93&n=96&a=863

The IAA have no legal right to close airspace under our constitition, they have authority to close their own employed offices ONLY.
The Dept.of Transport have sole rights to our airspace!
Closure of airspace can and will be done only by government when, and if, needs arise.

However, if you wish to fly over the coming days, it is advisable to consult all available material on the present situation and avoid any further difficulties than is classed as a "Normality"

We wish the IAA would consult with representative bodies BEFORE making statements such as this and avoiding unnecessary panic!
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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by StrikeCommand » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:35 am

What is the current situation for GA?
When the IAA says that Irish Airspace is closed, does that include Class G uncontrolled airspace as well?
Are there still GA flights happening between private aerodromes located in Class G?

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by kilo delta » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:25 pm

Seems that both KLM and Lufthansa have flown through the ash cloud without problems...http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/04/1 ... ts/?hpt=T2

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Jim » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:32 pm

GA is operating as normal up to 5/6000 ft. as density is low and tested.

The IAA has only closed Class C to commercial traffic.
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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Dave » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:54 pm

GA is operating per normal. I flew into the Dublin CTA today, did
a low approach on 10. Enjoy the lack of heavy metal while it lasts!

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by libertyxl2flyer » Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:19 pm

was up yesterday flew from einc to kikh via dub city centre and the kind atc on 118.6 gave me permisson to do an app on 16 in eidw got down to 300ft was great enjoy it while it lasts make the most of the freedom of the skies
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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Jim » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:08 am

I flew into the Dublin CTA today, did
a low approach on 10. Enjoy the lack of heavy metal while it lasts!
the kind atc on 118.6 gave me permisson to do an app on 16 in eidw got down to 300ft was great enjoy it while it lasts make the most of the freedom of the skies
You both should have availed of T&G's, this is seen as an opportunity missed!
When will you or i ever see an open window resembling this again?
Experience lost can never be regained, Opportunities are meant for the taking!
In the last 2 days we have done T&G's at all national and regional airports, on as many approaches as they could possibly allow.
We live to learn, just as much as we learn to live! Take advantage while the window is open!
(Jet engine aircraft, (compressed air), can be hazardous in present conditions)
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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Pilot » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:57 am

There is nothing stopping you from doing full stop landings at Dublin anytime of the year.

So long as you don't want to park up and exit the aircraft you should have no need to pay for a handling agent.

As for all the other regional airports, aren't they always open to GA without handling agents?

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Dave » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:00 am

Jim wrote: You both should have availed of T&G's, this is seen as an opportunity missed!
They were doing runway maintenance on 10/28, otherwise I definitely would of done a stop and go!

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by pilot1087 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:23 pm

Hi all,

Does anyone know how much Dublin are charging for a touch and go?

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by michael747 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:56 pm

Looks like €6.40 per ton as per their website

http://www.dublinairport.com/about-us/a ... arges.html
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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Pilot » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:57 pm

It's a while since we used it, but from memory it was less than €20.

They didn't have a price for a touch and go. It was a price for a landing and a price for a take off which came to less than €20. The exact amount depended on the time of day and the day of the week. Some times were very much cheaper than that!

There is no need to do a t&g. You pay the same for a full stop landing and take off as a t & g so you might as well stop, taxi around and take off again...get the full experience ;)

You do need PPR though via Ops.

If you want to park and get out of the aircraft then you will need handling, and expect to pay hansdomly for this. From memory Landmark were the cheapest, and even for them there wasn't much change from €100.

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by pilot1087 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:54 pm

Thanks for the replies lads,

I'm planning on going heading there tomorrow and just wanted to make sure I don't get crucified with prices.

I wonder will a I get a liffy 2A departure :D

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by Pilot » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:34 pm

Don't forget to get your PPR via Ops.

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Re: Beware of Volcanic Ash

Post by pilot1087 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:01 pm

Pilot wrote:Don't forget to get your PPR via Ops.
Wilco,

I've a feeling now the airspace will be open tomorrow and I won't even get near EIDW in the end.

Thanks for the tip.

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