Two killed in helicopter crash in Bog of Allen

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Two killed in helicopter crash in Bog of Allen

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Post by bean_ian » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:28 pm

Bit more info here:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0402/kildare.html

Wonder why the alarm wasn't raised for nearly 18 hours after the craft was last heard from.
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Post by Dauphin_Army » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:49 pm

Heli was a Schweizer from EHA Weston with instructor and student on board.

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Post by jonkil » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:02 pm

Instructor from Donegal.
Very sad indeed, may they both RIP.

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Post by inverted » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:31 pm

My thoughts are with the families and friends of those concerned.

RIP.

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Post by Whisky Tango » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:47 pm

RTÉ are reporting it seemed to hit power lines in the area.

Very sad...

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Post by cleared to land » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:51 pm

The two men that died after a helicopter hit power lines in Co Kildare and crashed have been named.

34-year-old Colm Clancy from Derrybeg, Co Donegal, and his student Dermot Sheridan, aged 24, from Co Clare, both died in the crash.

The aircraft crashed yesterday evening in a remote location and the wreckage was not found until today by a Coastguard helicopter.

Air accident investigators said there was no power in the lines but the helicopter appeared to strike them before impact.

The Schweizer helicopter remains at the scene this evening but will be removed in the next number of hours.

The two-seater helicopter left Weston Airport outside Dublin yesterday evening at around 5pm on a training flight.

It was expected to fly onwards to Cork later.

It was not until this morning when the two occupants' families contacted the airport that the alarm was raised.

A coastguard helicopter spotted wreckage on the Bog of Allen near Carbury at 12pm.

Both of the people on board are Irish but their identities are not known.

Radar tapes were reviewed this morning in order to try and locate the helicopter.

It is understood the wreckage is in an inaccessible location.

Gardaí and emergency services are at the scene and a team from the Air Accident Investigation Unit is on its way.

In a statement, the European Helicopter Academy said it operated the helicopter.

It said the type of aircraft involved, a Schweizer 300CBi, is one of the most frequently used for helicopter training in the world.

The academy expressed regret that the crash happened and said it would fully co-operate with all investigations taking place.

The helicopter underwent its annual maintenance inspection on Tuesday.

RIP guys

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Post by ADDICT » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:09 pm

OUR thoughts are with the families and friends of those concerned.

RIP.

Just puzzled as to why the family of these men had to raise the alarm as reported?
I am presumin as it was student and instructor it was on to cork airport they were going as said above, if so a plan would have to have been filed?
I always thought the whole idea of a plan was that alarm would be raised if half an hour late???

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Post by OSCAR BRAVO » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:32 pm

there was no flight plan submitted,therefore no alram raised.

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Post by ADDICT » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:00 am

ok that makes more sense!


may they RIP.

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Post by EiMPB » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:35 am

My thoughts and condolences are with their family and friends!

May they rest in peace!

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Post by captain slow » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:24 pm

Im sure MCRO will be along to comment on this but the way i understand it you dont need a flight plan to be provided with an alerting service as a minimum.

If memory serves me correctly once you call any air traffic unit regardless of whether they are a control or information unit then you are known traffic ('cos you used your call sign) and as known traffic you get a alerting service as a minimum.

So i am wondering how come they werent missed by someone in atc but more importantly how come the flight school/renter didnt raise the alarm or at least try and find where the chopper was. Or is an overdue return (in this case hours late) not raise any questions? It appears sad that it took family to raise the alarm-maybe things need to tightened up abit?

Condolences to both familys on this very sad accident, their friends and all involved.

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Post by mr crow » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:34 pm

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Post by ADDICT » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:18 pm

If not on a proper plan when requesting start up Weston does ask for your detail...I thought you were meant to say a general direction and a duration??
I presumed, as a result, that if I were well overdue then I would be missed. Or when tower is closing would they not see that a certain aircraft was not back, and would give the school a call...
Just really don’t like the way the families had to raise the alarm, at the very least would a school staff member not have raised it.
Procedures need to be set in place, immediately!!

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