opening vfr and ifr flight plans in eire
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    opening vfr and ifr flight plans in eire

    by themightycelt » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:59 pm

    just quick question for you guys when i flew out of galway few yrs back i could open vfr flt plan with atc and they would kindly open and close it for me,is this the story in all controlled airports nationwide im aware carnmore was class c airspace but was reading is only necessary to file in class d and atc can do it for you?im just a little confused about it, not flyin in ireland at moment but will be soon and wanted to know also for filing ifr do i need to ring shannon to file it or will i need to file it with aro office in the airport im flying?

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    Re: opening vfr and ifr flight plans in eire

    by Charlie Hotel Mike » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:09 pm

    themightycelt wrote:class d
    ....the only airpace classifications in EISN are A(high level IFR only), C(control zones IFR/VFR flight plans mandatory) and G (uncontrolled).

    In relation to filing it I either ring 061-703730 and tell them it over the phone or fax it.....dont have the fax number handy.

    Hope that helps
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    by Rallye EIBFP » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:27 pm

    With regards to Opening or closing just call Shannon 127.50 and request plan closure, it is possible to close on the phone dont have the number handy.
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    by Charlie Hotel Mike » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:44 pm

    The same number I gave previously can be used to close/open the plan......just make sure you close it. If you land at an airport with ATC i.e. an airport with a control zone the plan is closed automatically. Otherwise ring them and close it or as EI-BFP said give shannon a call of the radio.
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    by Rallye EIBFP » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:36 pm

    Did the IAA ever get their online plan filing system back up and running?
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    VFR

    by zulu10 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:05 pm

    MightyCelt


    If you are at galway during tower operational times then the zone becomes class C(controlled) else class G. To enter or exit class C you need a to have filed a flight plan. You can as you mentioned file a plan over the radio before startup with the tower and you will be cleared out of the zone. Your flight plan will then be closed by the tower on exiting the zone ie: entering class G airspace. If however your flight brings you back into Class C airspace at some stage then you would need a flight plan filed for the whole flight ,as normal. Best thing is always file if you have time, that way we all know where you are and then if landing at class g airfiled close the plan on 127.5 or by phone as mentioned. My experience is that most fo the class c airports will let you file out of their airspace in this manner.
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    by MCRO » Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:44 pm

    Yes the Irish "File on Line" is great - enter via www.IAA.ie

    Posts to date don't quite seem to reflect unanimity

    Try this

    Departing from Control Zone to enter other controlled airspace

    File your PLN a nominal hr ahead : ATC will close

    Departing from CTZ with no other controlled airspace envisaged

    PLN may be accepted with shorter notice : YOU have responsibility to CLOSE - you may do so at CTR Bdry if you wish

    Departing from UNC airfield with intent to enter controlled airspace

    File 1 hr before anticipated controlled airspace entry : do not enter without clearance

    Departing from UNC airfield with no intent to enter controlled airspace

    File 1 hr before DEP : YOU have responsibility to CLOSE

    The question of activating/opening a VFR Flightplan in the FIR does not arise : but no sympathy for you if you fail to delay/cancel/close

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    Re: Fllightplans

    by mikekilo » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:06 pm

    MCRO wrote:Yes the Irish "File on Line" is great - enter via www.IAA.ie

    Maurice


    ... 'File on Line' has not been available for the past year.

    A daft move by the IAA to remove this facility - it saved their folks a lot of manhours taking phone calls relating to submission of flight plans.
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    by Charlie Hotel Mike » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:01 pm

    Yeah it was a short lived online FPL system, I think it would be great if they started it again, I'd defo use it. Any1 know why they stopped it?
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    by Rallye EIBFP » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:12 am

    Charlie Hotel Mike wrote:Yeah it was a short lived online FPL system, I think it would be great if they started it again, I'd defo use it. Any1 know why they stopped it?


    Somebody I know spoke to the IAA a year ago and it was something to do with security and they would have it back up 'soon' - a year later and it still has not yet reappeared. Great pity as in this day and age when alot of airfields now have internet available onsite, come on one would think they would get with the times! (ireland is very backward with regard to internet services)
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    by hum » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:19 am

    I have a different number in my phone for AIS Shannon

    061 703750

    I must say I find the staff there most helpful and efficient.

    They also accept flight plans via e-mail on

    aisops@iaa.ie

    Just type in the details in the body of a message or attach a text file, an example might be the following fictious plan for a Cub with floats to fly from Weston to a floatplane base in Lough Ree on 20 April 2008 which was produced by Jeppesen Flight Star flight planning software. Note that by then he would probably have to have a mode 's' transponder fitted so would have an 'X' in place of a 'C' in line 3.

    FF/
    (FPL - EI WET - VG
    - C150/L - V/C
    - EIWT08:00
    - N0090A015 KILCOCK ATHLONE DCT
    - ZZZZ0058 EIAB
    RMK / DOF 080420 / DESTINATION LOUGH REE FLOATPLANE BASE
    E/0437 P002 R/V S/M J/LV
    A/Blue/White
    N/406 elt
    C/Mr Irish Aviator)
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    by Charlie Hotel Mike » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:41 pm

    I have an excellent Flight Plan form on file which you can fill in on the computer, PDF format, I anyone wants it PM me and i'l e-mail it to you. Cant remember now where i downloaded it from :)
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    by Lambada Crazy » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:07 pm

    in Waterford we can file, open, close, temporary suspend your flightplan.
    When a flight is proceeding incredibly well, something was forgotten.

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